Well, the idea of Ultras choosing who to sell their stand's tickets to often seems to mean

that they will sell them only to fascist bastards. The worst part is, that it becomes a wonderful recruiting incentive for those fascists. You really do not want the Barclay full of the equivalent of Dynamo Dresden Ultras.

At least that was my experience in Dresden. Yes, the atmosphere is incredible but at what cost? While I was there we hosted the U-19 European American Football finals. Austria beat Germany in the final and celebrated at their hotel which happened to be the hotel I lived in. The hotel was half an hour out of town, in a quiet wine making village. Somehow word got out and in the middle of the night a massive fleet of police had to turn up to fight back about 50 Dynamo Ultras who had decided to visit together and try to fight their way into the hotel to attack the Austrian youth team. Grown men trying to attack 16-19 year old kids.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on November 20th 2017 at 13:29:49

Message Thread

Atmosphere / The Barclay / Germany (NCFC) - Azteca, Nov 20, 10:35:26
- I know that fans should get behind the team (NCFC) - duke of york, Nov 20, 13:02:24
  - Spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - berstreetsfinest, Nov 20, 17:25:15
  - never had this issue when Saint Paul of Lambertshire was banging on a 3rd fwd (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Nov 20, 13:37:59
- We don't want to start any Ultra type groups like in other parts of europe... (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Nov 20, 12:30:07
  - The River End transition is slow, still full of people like me, same seat for years (NCFC) - watfordcanary, Nov 20, 13:21:09
- Great post, completely agree (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Nov 20, 12:18:07
  - Well, the idea of Ultras choosing who to sell their stand's tickets to often seems to mean (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Nov 20, 13:29:49
- Does anyone know the average age of fan in the Barclay? (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 20, 12:04:12
  - Exacterly why I cancelled my season ticket (NCFC) - Costa Del Colney, Nov 20, 12:23:19
  - ^^^ arrogant post^^^^ (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 20, 12:10:21
    - ^^ miserable old moaning prick (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 20, 12:18:59
      - in our last season in the Premiership (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 20, 12:28:16
        
        Given the people skills you display on here I find that story impossible to believe (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Nov 20, 13:27:11
        
        haha potd (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 20, 15:22:52
        
        Believe what you want its all true (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 20, 13:30:36
  - Any your last sentence sums up our every frustration... (NCFC) - Thomo, Nov 20, 12:06:19
    - This is true (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 20, 12:09:20
      - The JARROLD is full of these stereotypes... (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Nov 20, 12:28:07
- Walking down Carrow Road at 2.30 on Sat, if you were blind you wouldn't know a game was on (NCFC) - lurd, Nov 20, 11:56:59
  - Too many fans who like being in the nosiest stand but don’t want to contribute (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Nov 20, 12:15:38
  - Where can they move? (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 20, 12:05:05
    - There's always places to move to. Seems most don't want to. (NCFC) - lurd, Nov 20, 12:46:17
- There are numerous fan groups.... (NCFC) - Thomo, Nov 20, 11:23:48
  - I agree. How often does Rob Butler pedal the 'best supporters in the land' line? (NCFC) - Azteca, Nov 20, 11:36:12
    - Most loyal maybe, not the loudest. But not worse than most others. (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Nov 20, 11:39:16
- We are trying stuff in conjunction with the club. (NCFC) - DJ Worthy, Nov 20, 10:51:39
  - bring back the opening OTBC sing-a-long (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 20, 13:00:45
    - PM:Tombs^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Nov 20, 14:54:47
  - The club don't give a shit (NCFC) - wolfio, Nov 20, 12:29:44
  - SAFE STANDING (NCFC) - Old Git, Nov 20, 12:23:49
    - The club seem disinterested and replacing seats would require a degree of investment (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, Nov 20, 15:19:19
      - On the contrary, the old regime was disinterested... (NCFC) - Thomo, Nov 20, 16:29:33
    - You can stick your official trumpet up your hoop, chief. (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Nov 20, 12:31:30
      - What about some lovely old safe standing though Michael, hmm? (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Nov 20, 12:43:31
        
        Yes, thats exactly what we need. You don't need to pre-book weeks in adv (NCFC) - MIKEWALKER, Nov 20, 12:50:18
  - The only thing I could think of (NCFC) - DH Yellow, Nov 20, 11:11:30
    - Here's how to improve things.... (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Nov 20, 11:18:52
      - i've got a brilliant idea to improve things and get a better atmosphere (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 20, 11:32:32
        
        i've got a brilliant idea to improve things and get the team to play the type of football (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Nov 20, 11:40:24
        
        so your suggestion is Sing when we're winning. Well Done! (NCFC) - Thomo, Nov 20, 11:40:22
        
        lamb-blasted (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 20, 15:25:00
        
        Which is what I said above wasn't it? (n/m) (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Nov 20, 11:36:41
      - thats not the answer to the actual issue though is it... (NCFC) - Thomo, Nov 20, 11:29:47
        
        what about closing the price gap between season tickets and casual tickets? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Nov 20, 11:57:17
        
        I have no issue with that... (NCFC) - Thomo, Nov 20, 12:04:46
        
        I think that if casual ticket prices were pretty much on a par with season ticket (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Nov 20, 13:37:37
        
        and shatter the clubs revenue plan (n/m) (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 20, 14:24:54
        
        well, as said above (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Nov 20, 14:31:05
        
        in a business world it would never be allowed to happen (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 20, 14:47:38
        
        I agree - from a business perspective it's very doubtful (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Nov 20, 16:41:17
        
        Increase capacity - hopefully standing will be permitted again in the future (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Nov 20, 12:19:51
        
        Best way to improve atmosphere is to win games. Anything else is mostly irrelevant. (n/m) (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Nov 20, 11:37:27
        
        There's always going to be times when the team is playing poorly (NCFC) - Azteca, Nov 20, 11:42:36
        
        But that's not in our control. It is in our control to bother to make an atmosphere (n/m) (NCFC) - bird table, Nov 20, 11:41:06
        
        spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - Thomo, Nov 20, 11:42:08

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