Thanks Jim, a few quick thoughts.

- The prem money is a bit of a red herring. Everyone gets it so it doesn't give you a competitive advantage over your divisional peers.

- Related to this, there is no such thing as premier league safety outside the top 6. Its a myth (I've posted about this before). So we will never be established in the prem and will always need to be prepared for relegation etc. When you are relegated, the prem money becomes a curse. As it was last year where we had too many players on prem wages who we couldn't shift.

- Clubs that get sold out to new owners get relegated to League 1 all the time. Blackburn, Coventry and Portsmouth are all good examples. Forest survived by the skin of their teeth last year. I.e. new ownership does not guarantee success (again).

- In terms of timing, I guess they didn't realise the deeper weaknesses in structure until last season. This is partly because of McNally and his control, and the aftermath of his departure. Indeed, his failure to develop a proper recruitment system has led to where we are today.

Posted By: Knitted Jesus on July 10th 2017 at 12:34:33

Message Thread

NBTTT: Football finances and business models (spoiler there is no magic money tree) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 10, 10:32:23
- This is a good post and I agree with much of it but (NCFC) - Jim, Jul 10, 12:12:35
  - Thanks Jim, a few quick thoughts. (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 10, 12:34:33
    - I'm not sure the prem money nor the wealth of their owners is that much of a red herring (NCFC) - Jim, Jul 10, 13:12:59
- Good stuff. (n/m) (NCFC) - avenging canary, Jul 10, 11:46:09
- Excellent post. I do think there is definitely something to be said... (NCFC) - norway, Jul 10, 11:40:32
  - Yeah I agree, and like I said down there, I think we could make more of being different (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 10, 12:24:22
  - *era* not *afe* (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jul 10, 11:41:51
- I've been trying to say this^^^ for years on here (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jul 10, 11:27:22
- Exceptional post. One of the best I've ever read on here. Chapeau! (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jul 10, 10:48:44
  - Thanks! I should add that I am not a Delia apologist (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 10, 11:47:16
    - as regards Neil... (NCFC) - mr carra, Jul 10, 13:17:56
      - Yeah that makes a lot of sense (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 10, 13:34:08
  - Re Chase (NCFC) - mr carra, Jul 10, 11:06:50
    - He also lied about not getting paid iirc.He was luckiest chairman in our history (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jul 10, 11:25:04
    - when did Delia last put any money in? (n/m) (NCFC) - pab, Jul 10, 11:22:44
      - what does that matter? (NCFC) - mr carra, Jul 10, 11:42:24
    - I don't think it can be termed a 'red herring' when we'd scarcely achieved anything like (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jul 10, 11:21:39
      - thebigfeller has "No words at all" (NCFC) - Old Git, Jul 10, 11:57:26
  - Good stuff from both of you and in the relatively calmn waters.... (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jul 10, 11:00:22
- Good post. Look forward to the debate on it. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jul 10, 10:47:31

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