One way or another

we will learn that complacency and arrogance on the very grandest scale will be at the heart of this.

I can't help thinking, no matter how hysterical this sounds, that everything that has happened in the last 10 years...austerity, bigotry, brexit, terror, extremism, the lot... has collided this week. That Grenfell Tower will become the most powerful symbol for the state of this f**king country in the 21st century. For decades to come.

A 24-storey national f**king tombstone.

Posted By: norway on June 15th 2017 at 21:51:51

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Boris (when mayor) when challenged on fire service cuts (watch to end) (General Chat) - jampersands, Jun 15, 21:33:40
- Was the fire service to blame for this fire then? (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 15, 22:40:59
- boom shakalaka.... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jun 15, 22:19:30
- no tar (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 15, 21:38:27
  - There will, I think, need to be all kinds of conversations about what Grenfell means (General Chat) - jampersands, Jun 15, 21:40:45
    - One way or another (General Chat) - norway, Jun 15, 21:51:51
      - exactly this (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 15, 22:39:27
        
        so, so much this. (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 15, 23:21:45
        
        Course we should make buildings safer and (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 15, 23:05:19
        
        the cladding that was originally given planning permission for was more expensive (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 15, 23:33:23
        
        To be clear I meant there has been too much austerity not that discussion on it has (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 15, 23:06:15
        
        I'd just read this, then came on here and read your and Norway's posts (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jun 15, 23:03:27
        
        jeebers (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 15, 22:50:41
        
        link fail - this one: (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 15, 22:41:11
      - I don't think it will though Norway! (General Chat) - Men without hats, Jun 15, 22:26:01
      - Or alternatively (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 15, 22:14:03
        
        There isn't a single mistake that happens at Carrow Road (General Chat) - norway, Jun 16, 00:10:22
        
        Where have I said "nothing to see here?" (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 16, 06:12:48
        
        You know precisely what I mean. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jun 16, 06:51:01
        
        Tragedy even! (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 15, 22:14:28
      - The shambles that is our social housing programme over the last 50 has much to answer for. (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jun 15, 21:56:57
        
        Last 50? Didn't it really become a shambles when we started selling it all off? (General Chat) - jampersands, Jun 15, 21:59:13
      - VMT (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 15, 21:56:12
      - That's quite powerful (General Chat) - jampersands, Jun 15, 21:56:07
        
        Absolutely (General Chat) - norway, Jun 15, 21:58:22
        
        Amazing what a difference 5 years can make to a country (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 15, 22:02:07
        
        Nauseating article (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 15, 22:31:05
        
        Blub (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 15, 22:33:35
        
        I think the things that led to this were more than 5 years in the making (General Chat) - jampersands, Jun 15, 22:05:50
        
        Defo (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 15, 22:34:03
    - Indeed yes and this forum is precisely the right vehicle to sort it all out (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 15, 21:44:50
      - Can you take a break from telling everyone what to do for a bit now? (General Chat) - norway, Jun 15, 21:53:34
        
        See, I actually agree with old Tomby to a certain extent here. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jun 15, 22:11:50
        
        Why is twitter any better a place to do it than here? (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 15, 23:11:20
        
        That's the most lucid and coherent thing you've ever posted. (General Chat) - tudders, Jun 15, 22:52:09
        
        I got the cat to write it. (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jun 15, 22:59:26
        
        With your cock? (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jun 15, 23:47:32
        
        No, with hers. (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jun 16, 00:14:50
        
        Sorry, you're probably right (General Chat) - jampersands, Jun 15, 22:17:25
        
        I'm not saying we should or shouldn't. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jun 15, 22:19:56
        
        I'm not old (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 15, 22:13:24
        
        I'll make you feel young again. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jun 15, 22:15:50
        
        oh mate (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 15, 22:16:55
        
        When Garrry says 'young'.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 15, 22:19:41
        
        wow, now that is rich from the self appointed board police commisioner (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 15, 22:05:35
        
        Yep, that's precisely the response I expected. (General Chat) - norway, Jun 15, 22:08:13
        
        Sad thing is, your point was a cheap shot (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 15, 22:11:44
      - Oh, ok. Sorry. (n/m) (General Chat) - jampersands, Jun 15, 21:45:56

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