but they really weren't as bad as each other

one side said there would be economic chaos - guess what? that's coming true

the other side said they would give ?350m a week to the NHS - not going to happen

they would put curbs on immigration but keep full access to the free market - not going to happen

we would take back control from unelected elites - not going to happen, (cos y'know, that's the House of Lords not the elected by proportional representation European Parliament...)

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on July 5th 2016 at 10:28:42

Message Thread

Quick, before people come on and tell us off for being political, anyone going to the Nor (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jul 5, 07:23:46
- What is the protest against? Democracy? (n/m) (General Chat) - lurd, Jul 5, 07:31:59
  - 41 years those cunts were moaning about not getting the result they wanted (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 5, 07:46:07
    - Perhaps again Ralf but this time with a little more feeling (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Jul 5, 08:28:49
    - Breezy (n/m) (General Chat) - lurd, Jul 5, 07:56:48
      - It's the way I tell 'em... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 5, 08:20:15
  - its a we want democracy protest (General Chat) - Disshater, Jul 5, 07:35:51
    - LOL absolutely, its oinly democracy if the result aligns with our point of view! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 09:36:55
      - No, that's such a 'clickbaity' style response that is clearly misses the point. (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Jul 5, 09:47:43
        
        There wouldn't be any remain demonstartaions if the result had gone their way... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 11:31:03
        
        Demonstrations even..... (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 11:31:57
        
        There definitely needs to be greater control over campaign material. I was shocked to find (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 09:51:05
        
        Part of the problem is that there are different aspects of political literature (General Chat) - watfordcanary, Jul 5, 13:03:42
        
        Exactly, and this is the biggest gripe. Not the result. (n/m) (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Jul 5, 09:53:58
      - It wasn't an exercise in democracy, it was a total cop out by a (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:38:51
        
        This! Such a complex situation should never have been distilled down to a yes or no vote. (n/m) (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Jul 5, 09:48:45
        
        Not quite true, the Tories were elected with this as a centrel point of their manifesto... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 09:42:48
        
        they were elected with economic and political stability as their centre points (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 5, 10:23:14
        
        Exactly, but it was still a copout. They should have had a manifesto (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:49:35
        
        You may be right, but its a tradition in many democracies that matters.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 09:58:54
        
        If that is their manifesto, and they are elected on it, they should be able to (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 10:02:19
        
        The Scottish independence result proved at the time, that although a majority of Scottish (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 11:34:41
        
        Then they voted for the wrong government (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 11:40:13
    - I can cope when Norwich lose but if we lost through cheating I'd be cross. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jul 5, 07:56:54
      - Fair enough but it's a false narrative that there were lots of lies (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 08:57:30
        
        I agree, pleanty of lies on both sides - Osborne's emergency budget for instance! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 09:31:19
        
        not needed as no Art 50 served... (General Chat) - CWC, Jul 5, 10:11:38
        
        Well, it did serve to rid uus of a whole load of c**ts at the top. Trouble is, (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 10:17:32
        
        trouble is... (General Chat) - CWC, Jul 5, 10:20:53
        
        I know, there are no words. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 10:24:23
        
        That may still happen, who knows. Probably won't be Osborne's though (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:37:31
        
        It may do, but Osborne told a bare faced lie that it would happen.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 09:41:01
        
        we didn't serve notice to leave though, did we? (General Chat) - CWC, Jul 5, 10:14:51
        
        Ffs, HE'S A POLITICIAN. THEY ALL LIE. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:42:20
        
        I know, I'm only making the point that both sides told Porkies. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 09:44:04
        
        But why? That's like saying the sky is blue. Everyone knows (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:46:59
        
        Really; some in the country, on here, even in this thread.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 09:52:33
        
        but they really weren't as bad as each other (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 5, 10:28:42
        
        Thats your opinion which I repsect, but I just don't agree with. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 11:24:44
        
        Because the protests (like the OP) are happening because of the so called lies. (n/m) (General Chat) - lurd, Jul 5, 09:51:51
        
        I think the protests are happening because of the closeness of the (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 10:01:09
        
        Unfortunately these protests will provoke a reaction soon,and it won't be pretty. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jul 5, 10:25:00
        
        Indeed. Uncork the bottle and watch it fizz (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 10:26:40
        
        No they are not. they are happening because a lot of (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 09:55:47
        
        no, no, no. You have been lied to for years by The Daily Heil, The Scum, The Daily Express (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 5, 10:35:11
        
        I can see perfectly clearly thanks and I am fully aware of the level of (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 10:45:56
        
        but their serious concerns are mistaken (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 5, 10:53:27
        
        In your opinion. In many other people's opinion they are not. (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 11:32:17
        
        the causes are mistaken - that is not a matter of opinion (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 5, 11:42:19
        
        With respect it very clearly is. (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 12:02:34
        
        with ever decreasing respect, no it isn't. (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 5, 12:11:20
        
        Its ridiculous to simply say its all due to "underinvestment" when (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 12:46:56
        
        there's only about 10% of land built on though Jim, we're really not running short of room (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 5, 13:34:57
        
        and tellingly, the highest leave voting areas were those with (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 13:50:26
        
        Agree with most of that (n/m) (General Chat) - lurd, Jul 5, 10:32:54
        
        ....or misrepresentations, call them what you want, I'm fed up with this total myth that.. (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 09:33:52
        
        Both sides told lies but Leave's lies happened end to be their 3 key 'pledges' (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Jul 5, 09:43:30
        
        No this is wrong (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 5, 09:25:57
        
        The ?350m is money we don't control. Rebates & EU financed (General Chat) - dennis moore, Jul 5, 09:46:14
        
        AND you tell me exactly how I must spend the ?150 you give me back! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 5, 09:53:32
        
        And Osborne was told the same about the ?4300 per household figure (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 09:30:02
        
        Can I ask you what benefits you think that leaving will bring? (General Chat) - Linighans wake, Jul 5, 09:34:18
        
        Yes.i think we will end up either in the EEA or a similar agreed model with (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 09:47:42
        
        Sorry Jim, no offence, but that is an incredibly naive view. Hope you (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:54:20
        
        Well lets wait and see (which is really what everyone should be doing). The (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 10:03:49
        
        The problem is, any form of freedom of movement will be seen as (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 10:13:54
        
        We should get on with it but say we will only serve Article 50 simultaneously with (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 10:19:34
        
        Maybe we can do a deal that means we can send our unemployable, (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 10:23:26
        
        "And it was a lie to say that leaving the EU would result in a loss of workers rights" - (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:32:48
        
        Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:25:21
        
        A lot of Remain voters seem to think the Leave side were extremely gullible and believed (General Chat) - lurd, Jul 5, 09:25:15
        
        Lots of leave voters came out afterwards and... (General Chat) - loz, Jul 5, 09:27:58
        
        No they didn't. Probably a few posts on facebook seized upon by (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 09:32:13
        
        Yes they did Jim take your blinkers off (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Jul 5, 09:43:57
        
        How many people voted remain due to thinking we (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 09:53:09
        
        I think thats because people have come out in public (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jul 5, 09:26:56
        
        That's bizarre. It's like admitting you are really, really gullible. Why would (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:30:13
        
        Anyway, it's happened now and the best thing we can do is leave (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:41:09
        
        Strongly disagree (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Jul 5, 09:19:21
        
        Disagree. (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Jul 5, 09:12:45
      - This is the big point. The lies that only the next day were admitted to have been made up. (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Jul 5, 08:16:21
        
        What I find depressing is that anyone with half a brain cell actually (General Chat) - CB41, Jul 5, 09:24:50
        
        yeah I know. Some people seem to have lost the ability to have critical thought these days (n/m) (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Jul 5, 09:53:04
- (Arrrgh!) Norwich Stays protest outside City Hall, 7pm Thursday? (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jul 5, 07:24:49
  - I'm hoping to go along, yes. (n/m) (General Chat) - bird table, Jul 5, 09:40:00
  - Ah, another anti democracy protest. That will help. (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jul 5, 08:53:07
  - No... (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Jul 5, 08:25:51

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