To clarify your points...

The families of people who died like animals in that cage have 'absolutely no responsibility over events.'

The families are not responsible at all as far as we are aware. Unless they were there and were involved in stuff we don't know about then you can't be fully convinced though. But no, I'm not blaming them for anything.

The suggestion of moving on.

That was not my suggestion, but that of someone involved. I do believe though that keep dragging everything through the courts so long after doesn't do anybody any good. I understand the families perspective, that they want some form of accountability and I'm with them completely. However there are a few people within the Hillsborough victims community who will stop at nothing to absolve all responsibility. What I'm saying is that if the verdict finds that there is partial blame attributed to behaviour of Liverpool fans then they will keep dragging it on regardless. I don't think that's healthy for anyone, if there is sufficient evidence to suggest that there is a partial blame there.

Lastly the policeman who was relieved of his duties has previously gone to the press about it but was silenced and threatened at a level which he couldn't compete with on a financial or legal level. It's something that will affect the lives of a number of people involved and not my place to go and get involved with the press. It's up to those involved if they want to pursue it.

I simply said it here just to make it clear that this enquiry, whilst well meaning and worthwhile, isn't quite as transparent as people might believe. I didn't say it to score any points or anything. I could have gone to the papers and made some cash a long time ago if I wanted to do that.

Posted By: I Am Hoot on April 26th 2016 at 10:27:34

Message Thread

FAO Old Git et al (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 07:43:19
- I don't think there's many people who disagree that the club is capable of more, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 08:26:01
  - As a club right now I don't think we are capable of much more than we are allready (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Apr 26, 10:33:20
    - Yep, completely agree. (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 10:39:35
      - Everyone goes on about last Summers recuitment like the club fucked up on a massive scale (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Apr 26, 10:47:46
        
        The trouble is that "progression" is put hugely at risk by relegation (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 10:55:42
  - Yeah, i don't mind Jim but you've summed it up pretty well tbf. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 26, 08:28:58
    - Yeah I'm the same, I like Jim and he does make some reasonable points, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 08:31:30
      - I'm not having a dig here but he is very one dimensional (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Apr 26, 10:37:34
        
        Debate? I have lots of debates on here with lots of people. Yourself and (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 10:48:08
        
        Blub (NCFC) - norway, Apr 26, 11:50:21
        
        What insults? you maybe the butt of a few jokes but isn't that just WOTB culture? (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Apr 26, 11:09:50
        
        I've had a quick scroll back (NCFC) - norway, Apr 26, 13:16:00
      - Yes. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 26, 08:39:30
  - Good grief man... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:27:22
- ✅ (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 26, 08:25:21
- you are free to hold any opinion, good or bad, that you like (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 26, 08:22:53
- Good post Jim (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Apr 26, 07:49:10
- Was just about to post about the inquest conclusions. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Apr 26, 07:48:44
  - Whatever happens, I'm expecting some really classy posting on here about it today. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 26, 08:21:03
    - Did anyone else hear the Today programme this morning doing clips from Radio 2 coverage (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 26, 08:36:14
      - I was in Liverpool the day it happened, at me Nan's. (NCFC) - bird table, Apr 26, 09:51:35
      - nope and i wouldn't want to (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 26, 09:18:26
      - Yeah I've heard some of those before, pretty horrible to listen too (n/m) (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 09:14:03
      - It did send a shiver down my spine (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 26, 08:45:29
      - Yep and agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:43:43
      - No, there was no 5live. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 26, 08:41:16
    - *sniffs* yep, that's definitely sarcasm I can smell (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:28:51
  - Will be interesting if they don't get the verdict they're expecting. (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 26, 08:06:48
    - I'd be amazed if they don't get the verdict they were expecting (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 08:21:43
      - Agree with that. (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 26, 08:29:26
    - I think more hoping for rather than expecting... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:19:54
      - Did not know that. I guess the problem is that if they are hoping for (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 08:40:29
        
        96 dead is pretty gross to me (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:41:51
        
        Yes but its not a simple as that really. I think you have to disregard the outcome (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 08:49:30
      - There's been a lot of covering up on both sides, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 08:29:21
        
        Covering up on both sides? Not sure i follow (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:31:45
        
        well, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 08:47:46
        
        Wow. (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 26, 08:51:34
        
        Really that is very surprising. Which government? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 08:51:02
        
        The one before the current lot, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 09:13:09
        
        To clarify... because I'm sure this is not what you meant (NCFC) - norway, Apr 26, 10:01:04
        
        To clarify your points... (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 10:27:34
        
        Ok, that clarification makes some sense (NCFC) - norway, Apr 26, 10:33:53
        
        Yep, exactly. (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 10:43:26
        
        I think he's probably right - only way it will ever be brought to a close (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 09:19:20
        
        Yeah me too. It's such an emotional head fuck for all involved, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 09:24:48

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