Yes but its not a simple as that really. I think you have to disregard the outcome

as difficult as that may be. I think this is also an area of the law where there have been developments in recent years so I don;t really know what the legal definition of gross negligence is. The courts used to basically take the view that there was little or no difference but in some areas of the law a definition has been introduced. for example in some finance regulations its:

"acting without caring whether an infringement occurs"

I don't know if that's been carried over into this type of civil inquest situation. What i think can definitely be said is that the police made a very big f**k up but I would think you can probably be grossly negligent and have nobody die or just negligent and have 96 people die as a consequence.

Posted By: Jim on April 26th 2016 at 08:49:30

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FAO Old Git et al (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 07:43:19
- I don't think there's many people who disagree that the club is capable of more, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 08:26:01
  - As a club right now I don't think we are capable of much more than we are allready (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Apr 26, 10:33:20
    - Yep, completely agree. (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 10:39:35
      - Everyone goes on about last Summers recuitment like the club fucked up on a massive scale (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Apr 26, 10:47:46
        
        The trouble is that "progression" is put hugely at risk by relegation (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 10:55:42
  - Yeah, i don't mind Jim but you've summed it up pretty well tbf. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 26, 08:28:58
    - Yeah I'm the same, I like Jim and he does make some reasonable points, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 08:31:30
      - I'm not having a dig here but he is very one dimensional (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Apr 26, 10:37:34
        
        Debate? I have lots of debates on here with lots of people. Yourself and (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 10:48:08
        
        Blub (NCFC) - norway, Apr 26, 11:50:21
        
        What insults? you maybe the butt of a few jokes but isn't that just WOTB culture? (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Apr 26, 11:09:50
        
        I've had a quick scroll back (NCFC) - norway, Apr 26, 13:16:00
      - Yes. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 26, 08:39:30
  - Good grief man... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:27:22
- ✅ (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 26, 08:25:21
- you are free to hold any opinion, good or bad, that you like (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 26, 08:22:53
- Good post Jim (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Apr 26, 07:49:10
- Was just about to post about the inquest conclusions. (NCFC) - avenging canary, Apr 26, 07:48:44
  - Whatever happens, I'm expecting some really classy posting on here about it today. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 26, 08:21:03
    - Did anyone else hear the Today programme this morning doing clips from Radio 2 coverage (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 26, 08:36:14
      - I was in Liverpool the day it happened, at me Nan's. (NCFC) - bird table, Apr 26, 09:51:35
      - nope and i wouldn't want to (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 26, 09:18:26
      - Yeah I've heard some of those before, pretty horrible to listen too (n/m) (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 09:14:03
      - It did send a shiver down my spine (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 26, 08:45:29
      - Yep and agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:43:43
      - No, there was no 5live. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Apr 26, 08:41:16
    - *sniffs* yep, that's definitely sarcasm I can smell (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:28:51
  - Will be interesting if they don't get the verdict they're expecting. (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 26, 08:06:48
    - I'd be amazed if they don't get the verdict they were expecting (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 08:21:43
      - Agree with that. (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 26, 08:29:26
    - I think more hoping for rather than expecting... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:19:54
      - Did not know that. I guess the problem is that if they are hoping for (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 08:40:29
        
        96 dead is pretty gross to me (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:41:51
        
        Yes but its not a simple as that really. I think you have to disregard the outcome (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 08:49:30
      - There's been a lot of covering up on both sides, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 08:29:21
        
        Covering up on both sides? Not sure i follow (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 26, 08:31:45
        
        well, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 08:47:46
        
        Wow. (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Apr 26, 08:51:34
        
        Really that is very surprising. Which government? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 08:51:02
        
        The one before the current lot, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 09:13:09
        
        To clarify... because I'm sure this is not what you meant (NCFC) - norway, Apr 26, 10:01:04
        
        To clarify your points... (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 10:27:34
        
        Ok, that clarification makes some sense (NCFC) - norway, Apr 26, 10:33:53
        
        Yep, exactly. (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 10:43:26
        
        I think he's probably right - only way it will ever be brought to a close (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 26, 09:19:20
        
        Yeah me too. It's such an emotional head fuck for all involved, (NCFC) - I Am Hoot, Apr 26, 09:24:48

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