Yep, they are different

but not necessarily when establishing the guilt or otherwise of police officers in the line of duty.

Having a reason and thinking you have a reason are far closer together on the curve, than killing someone in the knowledge that it was unnecessary.

Posted By: norway on July 22nd 2015 at 16:05:30

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10 years since Jean Charles de Menezes was murdered by police for no reason (General Chat) - Brandonio, Jul 22, 13:33:03
- He clearly wasn?t killed for no reason. (General Chat) - norway, Jul 22, 15:11:37
  - I never said anybody was still lying (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Jul 22, 15:32:23
    - Yep, fair enough. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jul 22, 16:06:12
  - thinking you have a reason to kill someone (which is debatable anyway) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Jul 22, 15:22:11
    - Yep, they are different (General Chat) - norway, Jul 22, 16:05:30
- As a copper from 1990-96 who was firearms trained and authorised (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 22, 14:40:13
  - Can I ask a question? (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 15:08:39
    - Was'nt in the Met, so I can't answer for their culture..... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 22, 15:45:39
      - Interesting, thanks (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 15:50:24
  - 100% this (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jul 22, 14:58:26
- Amazing how many people still think he hurdled the barrier and had a thick coat on (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 13:40:24
- there was a reason (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jul 22, 13:37:06
  - all based on one of them noting that he had had "Mongolian eyes" (General Chat) - Brandonio, Jul 22, 13:39:46
    - Was he not running away from the police too? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jul 22, 13:40:28
      - This is the sad thing for me, people still believe the original story (General Chat) - Brandonio, Jul 22, 13:43:01
        
        I read that he was being followed by the police for some time previously (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jul 22, 13:50:52
        
        The truth has come out (General Chat) - Brandonio, Jul 22, 13:55:22
        
        Bit disingenuous, that (General Chat) - norway, Jul 22, 15:12:54
        
        some of the truth has come out (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jul 22, 14:03:47
        
        Bloody hell (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 13:49:26
        
        Yeah people make mistakes, that was a pretty big one though (General Chat) - Brandonio, Jul 22, 13:51:26
        
        Shoot first ask questions later is no excuse though (General Chat) - pants, Jul 22, 13:51:24
        
        Shoot first questions later is pretty standard protocol for dealing with a suicide bomber (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 13:54:15
        
        Is the disgusting cover up protocol as well? (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jul 22, 13:58:51
        
        However, shoot first, questions later, campaign of lies once the answers prove uncomfortab (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jul 22, 13:57:50
        
        Sure (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 14:08:10
        
        I stand by the fact there was no reason to kill him (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Jul 22, 14:13:20
        
        The surveillance was pretty slapdash wasn't it? The officer that identified him as a (General Chat) - Adster, Jul 22, 14:23:27
        
        What's wrong with this, is if it wasn't a busy transport terminal with witnesses (General Chat) - pants, Jul 22, 14:30:48
        
        COMMAGEDDON (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 13:58:19
        
        But they told loads of lies about it to try and absolve themselves of any blame (n/m) (General Chat) - Adster, Jul 22, 13:51:01
        
        I can understand the pressure they were under, but the cover up is sickening (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 13:50:21
        
        Photo shopping his image to manipulate it so he 'looked' like a previous terrorist (General Chat) - pants, Jul 22, 13:53:57
      - No, this was a lie (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 13:40:38
        
        Ran to the train I think (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jul 22, 13:45:32
        
        Mm. Ran the last few feet to jump on the train. Poor sod (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 13:47:31
- 10 years (General Chat) - Charles21, Jul 22, 13:36:13
  - Standard rate of one day per day Chuckles. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jul 22, 13:39:16

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