I'm an apologist for nobody, I would just like to see some balance,

in some respect, the West is as responsible for the current Ukraine situation as the Russians are!

Mrs K is Russian yes, but I was also in the forces for many years during and after the Cold War, so I feel able to look at the situation more objectively than to just bash the Russians continuously.

Posted By: Kirrie on February 19th 2015 at 12:09:12

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Regarding Russinas below..... this is just political rhetoric (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 11:49:17
- This thread had real potential but is now just fizzling out (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 19, 12:35:14
  - Picking up again now. Good work chaps. (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 19, 12:56:59
- In the same post (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 11:54:07
  - History lesson required, the Bay of Pigs invasion occurred well before... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:05:36
    - History lesson update (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:11:11
      - A year later, so that excuse state sponsored invasion by the US does it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:17:48
        
        No it doesn't (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:19:08
      - OK, you first!? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:13:07
        
        Lol righto (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:14:39
        
        I haven't said anyone is wrong, lets just be balanced FFS! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:29:13
        
        Course you are. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:31:48
        
        I'm more surprised that you the great socialist is defending US posturing! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:16:27
        
        I've done nothing of the sort (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:17:31
        
        Russia has been invaded from the West many times in the last 300 years or so, (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:25:44
        
        Oh I see (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:31:03
        
        Who said that, not me, nor did I suggest it......... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:35:39
        
        It's completely different (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:42:14
        
        you're wrong on one point (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 19, 12:53:20
        
        Thank you CWC - spot on! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 13:04:54
        
        Ok, semantics up to a point (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:57:38
        
        Ignoring sovereign nationhood, exactly what the US did in my examples! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 13:09:41
        
        oh indeed (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 19, 13:04:54
        
        and the main upshot of all that is (General Chat) - Tombs, Feb 19, 12:56:59
        
        unless you're in the dairy business (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 19, 13:05:30
        
        Or oil and gas- the UK industry is suffering majorly right now! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 13:07:55
        
        Vmt (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Feb 19, 12:55:40
        
        Eastern Ukraine most definite is........ (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:49:45
        
        Most definitely is what? (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:51:20
        
        In Russia's sphere of influence as was Crimea! (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:55:51
        
        Kruschev is reported to have (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 19, 13:08:30
        
        The Russians all think that Yeltsin was pissed, when he..... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 13:11:26
        
        So not 'sphere of influence' then (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:58:31
        
        You love your semantics, you know exactl;y what I mean! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 13:03:42
        
        OK and you would know that would you from your military experience etc? (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:44:57
        
        Will you kindly confirm to Norway that this stuff highlighted by the Defence Secretary (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:46:48
        
        i watched an episode of wallander last night about a supposed russian sub in swedish water (General Chat) - Tombs, Feb 19, 12:52:25
        
        Meant to attract Chelts attention! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:48:08
        
        I didn't say it was new. (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:50:06
        
        So why the rhetoric and scaremongering from our Defence Secretary then? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:53:31
        
        Politics ffs!! (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:59:20
        
        Thank you- see my first post at the top of this thread! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 13:13:04
        
        Who are you talking to? (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:47:45
        
        that's just rubbish (General Chat) - Tombs, Feb 19, 12:34:11
        
        lol (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:37:20
        
        We know (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Feb 19, 12:28:53
        
        i feel like a cheap whore's pimp here but... (General Chat) - Tombs, Feb 19, 12:19:32
        
        Haha (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Feb 19, 12:21:05
        
        Yep, no problem - I'm just waiting for one post. (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:20:59
    - No one cares, too many words (n/m) (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Feb 19, 12:08:52
  - I wouldn't engage too seriously with the stuff from him on Russia (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Feb 19, 11:56:58
    - problem is rusks think we are turning.... (General Chat) - yellowman, Feb 19, 12:06:30
      - and trying to deny them a warm water port in Syria (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 19, 12:13:10
        
        Cyprus is currently talking to them about facilities there, so Syria may be immaterial! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:28:02
        
        Excellent - maybe the Reds could earn their keep (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 19, 12:32:51
        
        Maybe Italy will too, in return for a big old bail-out loan (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Feb 19, 12:31:59
      - i think they've pretty much occupied central london (General Chat) - Tombs, Feb 19, 12:09:47
    - tbf he's more saying (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 19, 12:03:20
      - Thing is, does that really need saying? Surely everyone knows that all (General Chat) - CB41, Feb 19, 12:05:26
        
        I think it does, with what our media is currently peddling! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:10:21
        
        Only fools believe it though (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Feb 19, 12:12:38
        
        What are they 'peddling'? (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:11:57
        
        Let's hear the other side then. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:15:15
        
        Only one side of the story! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:13:42
        
        quite (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 19, 12:07:53
    - Ukraine should know its place (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 11:59:13
      - Just as we seem to kneel before Uncle Sam for the last however many years! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:40:56
        
        Apart from when (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:43:48
      - You don't half talk squit sometimes! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:12:09
        
        Enlighten me then. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Feb 19, 12:13:21
        
        Can it be off-line? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Feb 19, 12:18:15
    - i wouldn't limit it to just Russia tbh (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Feb 19, 11:58:43
- and, don't forget the cheeky girls either (General Chat) - Tombs, Feb 19, 11:51:27
  - Romanians! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:06:03
  - Kirrie is the board's Russian apologist (married to a Russian I think?) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Feb 19, 11:53:35
    - I'm an apologist for nobody, I would just like to see some balance, (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:09:12
      - did you get her with your soxmis card? (General Chat) - Tombs, Feb 19, 12:11:22
        
        GTF! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Feb 19, 12:15:18
        
        shame (General Chat) - Tombs, Feb 19, 12:17:15

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