Right, so it is money in football then

As you've said - you think people should deliver more because you think that money is worth more.

That's money in football, imo. Nothing else. Apply that to the value of paying a Sky subscription, the value of a Chief Exec, the value of a s**t striker sitting on a bench all season for ?2m a year.

He's got 'punished' for failure, to the tune of 30%. Because we can't relate (I'm taking a leap and assuming that like me, you're not on his type of money!) to the actual sums involved. For me ?1.5m to keep us up is as equally obscene as ?1.1 for taking us down. No more, no less.

I'm not going to keep banging on about it - I've made my point and can see where you're coming from as well - I just don't think it's the right argument (in my humble opinion).

Posted By: Yellalee on November 23rd 2014 at 19:13:41

Message Thread

Jim's post below regarding Director pay (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 17:55:33
- It is obscene. That's obviously what you have to pay to get someone to (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:04:55
  - comparison (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 23, 18:34:51
    - You can't blame him for what he gets paid. His perceived worth to the club. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:37:06
      - Whose perception? (n/m) (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:39:33
        
        Well, I didn't agree his remuneration package with him... (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:41:06
    - 12/13 was a successful season (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Nov 23, 18:36:51
      - I don't have those figures (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 23, 18:56:29
        
        ah ok (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Nov 23, 18:59:53
        
        hence (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 23, 19:09:13
  - you're becoming a fuck off selwyns type of wind up! (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:09:30
    - *pfft* a banker wouldn't even bother getting out of bed for that bonus (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 23, 18:29:05
    - Ok sorry. Yes of course we should not (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:27:02
      - You can question anything you want to - you should (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:32:05
        
        The point is performance sh*t and pay still obscene (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:39:18
        
        So, what you're saying is money in football is too high. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:43:42
        
        Money in football is too high but even allowing for football (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:51:49
        
        If he was paid 150k for staying up, and ?100k for going down, would you be happier? (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:56:59
        
        Obviously. The point is if people are being paid that sort (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 19:06:45
        
        Right, so it is money in football then (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 19:13:41
        
        The average CEO pay for prem clubs in 2013 was just over ?260k (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 19:21:18
      - So how much was he due to receive had we stayed up? (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:27:41
        
        I don't know. (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:29:55
        
        Right - so you don't even know how much relegation cost him then (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:34:20
        
        I assume therefore that the difference is not receiving a bonus for staying up (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:32:30
    - You're missing the point! It's obscene given the level of failure. (n/m) (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:12:05
      - debt free isn't failure (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:15:08
        
        Debt free due to promotion to the Premiership for which he (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:18:37
        
        So how much was he due to get if we stayed up then? (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:19:39
        
        No idea but again that's not the point. Why is the manager (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:21:57
        
        I thought the point was about the money McNally was being paid 'for failure'? (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:24:42
        
        Lambert and Holt etc cleared the debt (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 18:17:13
        
        fuck off troll boy (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:20:43
        
        You're deluded (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 18:23:27
        
        no, you are defoe a troll boy! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:24:10
        
        Certainly agree that Holt and Lambert were the main reasons but you have to give (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:20:20
        
        but we were promoted quicker than the plan - relegation was always going to happen (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:23:31
        
        We picked lambert because he beat us 7-1 (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 18:22:51
        
        Conjecture-tastic! (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:26:19
        
        McNally asked him why we were so shit after the game (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 18:49:48
    - Our club's a wind up (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 18:12:02
  - Well I was in favour of Adams Jim but I agree that the figure is obscene (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:08:13
- GIVE ARE NURSES FOOTBALL DIRECTIRS WAGEZ (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Nov 23, 17:59:29
  - I agree with your anagram (n/m) (NCFC) - Goalmusic, Nov 23, 18:01:00
- I find your response totally simplistic (n/m) (NCFC) - Goalmusic, Nov 23, 17:59:22
- so how much debt were we in when he arrived and what is our debt now? (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 17:58:03
  - You're quick enough to forget what Neil Adams has done for the club! (n/m) (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 17:59:10
    - ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:01:25
      - Bottom line is that fans wanted Hughton out, now Adams out (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:04:31
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:10:18
        
        Like I say, missing the point! lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:13:18
- 70% of a yearly van Wolfswinkel salary? (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 17:57:33
- It begs the question what he would have earned had we won The cup. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pink un exile, Nov 23, 17:57:20

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