Right - so you don't even know how much relegation cost him then

If it cost him ?500k would you feel better?

Slag his perfomance - it's justified. Slag money in football - it's justified. But to add that as another stick to beat him with isn't justified imo. It's not seeing the bigger picture.

Posted By: Yellalee on November 23rd 2014 at 18:34:20

Message Thread

Jim's post below regarding Director pay (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 17:55:33
- It is obscene. That's obviously what you have to pay to get someone to (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:04:55
  - comparison (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 23, 18:34:51
    - You can't blame him for what he gets paid. His perceived worth to the club. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:37:06
      - Whose perception? (n/m) (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:39:33
        
        Well, I didn't agree his remuneration package with him... (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:41:06
    - 12/13 was a successful season (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Nov 23, 18:36:51
      - I don't have those figures (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 23, 18:56:29
        
        ah ok (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Nov 23, 18:59:53
        
        hence (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 23, 19:09:13
  - you're becoming a fuck off selwyns type of wind up! (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:09:30
    - *pfft* a banker wouldn't even bother getting out of bed for that bonus (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 23, 18:29:05
    - Ok sorry. Yes of course we should not (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:27:02
      - You can question anything you want to - you should (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:32:05
        
        The point is performance sh*t and pay still obscene (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:39:18
        
        So, what you're saying is money in football is too high. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:43:42
        
        Money in football is too high but even allowing for football (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:51:49
        
        If he was paid 150k for staying up, and ?100k for going down, would you be happier? (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:56:59
        
        Obviously. The point is if people are being paid that sort (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 19:06:45
        
        Right, so it is money in football then (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 19:13:41
        
        The average CEO pay for prem clubs in 2013 was just over ?260k (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 19:21:18
      - So how much was he due to receive had we stayed up? (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:27:41
        
        I don't know. (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:29:55
        
        Right - so you don't even know how much relegation cost him then (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:34:20
        
        I assume therefore that the difference is not receiving a bonus for staying up (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 23, 18:32:30
    - You're missing the point! It's obscene given the level of failure. (n/m) (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:12:05
      - debt free isn't failure (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:15:08
        
        Debt free due to promotion to the Premiership for which he (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:18:37
        
        So how much was he due to get if we stayed up then? (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:19:39
        
        No idea but again that's not the point. Why is the manager (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:21:57
        
        I thought the point was about the money McNally was being paid 'for failure'? (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:24:42
        
        Lambert and Holt etc cleared the debt (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 18:17:13
        
        fuck off troll boy (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:20:43
        
        You're deluded (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 18:23:27
        
        no, you are defoe a troll boy! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:24:10
        
        Certainly agree that Holt and Lambert were the main reasons but you have to give (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:20:20
        
        but we were promoted quicker than the plan - relegation was always going to happen (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:23:31
        
        We picked lambert because he beat us 7-1 (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 18:22:51
        
        Conjecture-tastic! (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 18:26:19
        
        McNally asked him why we were so shit after the game (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 18:49:48
    - Our club's a wind up (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 18:12:02
  - Well I was in favour of Adams Jim but I agree that the figure is obscene (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:08:13
- GIVE ARE NURSES FOOTBALL DIRECTIRS WAGEZ (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, Nov 23, 17:59:29
  - I agree with your anagram (n/m) (NCFC) - Goalmusic, Nov 23, 18:01:00
- I find your response totally simplistic (n/m) (NCFC) - Goalmusic, Nov 23, 17:59:22
- so how much debt were we in when he arrived and what is our debt now? (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 17:58:03
  - You're quick enough to forget what Neil Adams has done for the club! (n/m) (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 17:59:10
    - ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:01:25
      - Bottom line is that fans wanted Hughton out, now Adams out (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:04:31
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Nov 23, 18:10:18
        
        Like I say, missing the point! lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Chopper, Nov 23, 18:13:18
- 70% of a yearly van Wolfswinkel salary? (NCFC) - Yellalee, Nov 23, 17:57:33
- It begs the question what he would have earned had we won The cup. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pink un exile, Nov 23, 17:57:20

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