it's not about the stats themselves though

the stats illustrate the rather more obvious point that we have had enough opportunities to stay up easily if we had executed properly on the pitch (not briloliantly, just competently would have done). Not just the missed chances but those individual defensive f** ups - Tettey's against Chelsea, Bassong's against Swansea (and his daft penalty given away against Stoke). Even little things like Olsson's slip that cost us that game against Baggies here.
Obvioulsy we have had things in our favour too (Baggies missed a ton of chances in the game we won there, and the was Jaskelaiinen's cock up for West Ham here) but the balance overall does seem quite lopsided against us.
Truth be told, in a league of such tight margins as this that is probably OFTEN the difference between sh*t teams that get relegated and sh*t teams that happen to stay up.

Posted By: mr carra on May 6th 2014 at 13:51:54

Message Thread

Fer's Disallowed goal V Cardiff (NCFC) - Ricochet Rabbit, May 6, 12:54:02
- No what if moments (NCFC) - inutero, May 6, 13:00:03
  - My 'what if moment'..... (NCFC) - Barclay_Steve, May 6, 13:55:00
    - In before Cheltenham_Canary tells you he would have missed it anyway (NCFC) - mrleelee, May 6, 13:58:56
      - like all of us Chelts can be annoying at times (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 14:01:02
  - but historically it hasn't been (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 13:22:21
    - agreed (NCFC) - Huge Small, May 6, 15:11:04
      - There's been a lot of pissing over in games, hasn't there? (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, May 6, 15:14:04
        
        Gary Neville was saying on Sky a few months ago (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 6, 15:16:20
        
        He's probably right. (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, May 6, 15:18:57
    - agree completely - the percentages that you gave the other day (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 6, 14:49:17
    - POTS (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, May 6, 14:46:23
    - Genuinely surprised at those stats (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 6, 14:10:59
      - What particularly is impressive about those stats? (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 14:18:49
        
        i said it gives a different perspective to the usual stuff trotted out on here (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 6, 14:20:27
        
        Yes I know but *how* does it put a different perspective on it? (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 14:24:27
        
        You've picked on open-play goals (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 14:30:10
        
        It really doesn't suggest that at all. (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 14:50:02
        
        Lets try Shots on target then (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 14:59:11
        
        how about offsides? We had the lowest number (NCFC) - CWC, May 6, 15:22:42
        
        I reckon our attackers are too slow (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 6, 15:25:06
        
        isn't that our lack of pace (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 15:25:06
        
        Do you have the list for the whole division? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 15:03:58
        
        Yes (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 15:07:09
        
        on that website, under Norwich characteristics (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 6, 15:10:22
        
        poor defending down the wings (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 15:20:49
        
        We aren't - I have a theory (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 15:18:24
        
        that could be true (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 6, 15:29:11
        
        we got a bit forced into 4-4-2 by the Tettey/Howson injuries (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 15:34:23
        
        Norwich style: "take long shots" (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 15:12:01
        
        well exactly, not scored many of them either (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 6, 18:36:32
        
        shots per goal and goals per open play in comparison to those others detailed (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 6, 14:29:40
        
        Those stats do not say that we are more attacking than we thought (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 14:51:48
        
        we are a lot more attacking than YOU continually make out (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 15:03:36
        
        I'm not particularly making out anything, continually or otherwise (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 15:06:07
        
        irony? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 6, 15:12:40
        
        No, not really. (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 15:17:04
        
        irony again? (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 6, 15:22:59
        
        Takes one to know one ;) (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 15:26:45
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 6, 15:29:23
        
        Fair enough, but I think (and statistics back me up) that we do (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 15:10:37
        
        I think (although we could go round in circles here) that stats show (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 15:15:21
        
        we are in the bottom half, yes (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 15:33:30
        
        Roger that - over and out ;) (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 15:35:36
        
        Time for a breather? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 15:38:22
        
        i think it shows we not as negative / defensive as frequently made out on here (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 6, 14:54:03
        
        I know you do. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 14:57:12
        
        surely quality of chance is important? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 6, 14:50:12
        
        yes, it is. (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 6, 14:52:24
      - we were set up defensively last season (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 14:16:42
    - The same player has taken 90% of our free kicks this season (NCFC) - phrankin, May 6, 14:04:37
    - 41 goals last season wasn't a "ton". Both Wigan & Reading scored more and got relegated.. (n/m) (NCFC) - Vivid Data Shark, May 6, 13:42:52
      - I didn't say a goal total was a ton - I said our goals from set peices was (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 13:45:39
        
        Agreed, sorry I missread. Although the Newcastle team he had was akin to being the Celtic (NCFC) - Vivid Data Shark, May 6, 13:52:13
        
        It's still possible to be negative in that situation (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 13:55:12
        
        why did the set piece goals dry up... was it all down to Holt? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 6, 14:01:05
        
        I presume other teams worked us out (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 6, 14:35:32
    - oh my god (NCFC) - Tombs, May 6, 13:35:00
      - Oh I don't know (NCFC) - duke of york, May 6, 13:42:13
        
        Well, scoring more goals from open play than Hull, Sunderland and Palace (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 14:16:59
        
        Also scoring 17 goals from set pieces last season (NCFC) - duke of york, May 6, 14:19:20
        
        we got 16 the year before too (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 14:33:58
        
        it's not about the stats themselves though (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 13:51:54
        
        Every team can point to on field examples of failure (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 14:09:29
        
        Troiuble is I am very confident they don't even themselves out over 38 games (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 14:25:37
        
        Palace have played with pace and confidence - they've been brilliant (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 14:26:52
        
        Absolutely agree (NCFC) - duke of york, May 6, 14:31:46
        
        they have 16 open play goals, we have 22 (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 14:36:21
        
        They've won 8 out of 16 gamkes since January! (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 6, 14:56:29
        
        by defending, keeping clean sheets and counter attacking (NCFC) - mr carra, May 6, 15:47:48

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