so your definition of under-achieving is if

we are not doing better than every club of a similar size as us?

I bet you're a tory.

Posted By: Mecagoenti on January 7th 2014 at 19:54:05

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Mick Dennis done some words... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 7, 17:27:51
- He has missed one of the biggest points (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jan 7, 19:35:44
  - It acts as a massive leveller for clubs like us. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:44:53
    - how is it a leveller? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 7, 19:51:14
      - we are spending about the same as Villa (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:52:16
        
        they have an 18m signing out on loan (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 7, 19:54:49
    - Yep, and the limit on squad size helps too (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jan 7, 19:48:34
- some food for thought there (NCFC) - Dirty Delia, Jan 7, 19:14:41
  - What is wrong with net spend? If you sell players. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:29:57
    - in that case you have to take net spend over several years (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 7, 19:34:23
      - Yes, net spend over a few years. we are about 13th over 5 years of prem clubs. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:36:07
        
        exactly - and below us are teams like Arsenal, Everton and Spurs (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 7, 19:38:34
        
        Exactly.... (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:39:24
        
        not sure what your point is (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 7, 19:45:48
        
        That we are no better off then them (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:50:18
        
        so your definition of under-achieving is if (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 7, 19:54:05
        
        bizarre, you categorise us in the same league as the recently promoted sides (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:59:34
    - Did you read it? (NCFC) - Huge Small, Jan 7, 19:32:57
      - I read it, I don't agree... (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:38:38
  - re him saying that looking at net spend in one transfer window is ridiculous (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 7, 19:17:27
    - Still ridiculous though (NCFC) - Huge Small, Jan 7, 19:26:04
    - On his twitter he mentions players assimilating (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:18:49
- spot on. he should make a cd of the article being read (NCFC) - sotoncanary, Jan 7, 18:58:56
- Skirts around the key points though innit (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 7, 18:54:44
  - I think most of the complaints you have raised are due to your personal expectations (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 7, 19:22:25
    - That may be the case and yes my (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 7, 19:29:14
      - I think all the teams in the bottom half are similar this season (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 7, 19:41:17
        
        This is just not true. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:43:32
        
        I don't want a complete sea change is style (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 7, 19:48:56
        
        Villa lol (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 7, 19:47:13
        
        Agreed, Lambert is doing a bizarre job there, on similar funds to us. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:51:46
        
        Southampton as well... although they aren't bottom half ;) (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:45:18
    - it's purely obvious tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 7, 19:23:00
      - in your opinion (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Jan 7, 19:23:45
  - vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 7, 19:06:09
  - That is very well put, Jim. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, Jan 7, 18:57:47
  - ^^^ this ^^^ (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 7, 18:55:44
    - Everyone agrees he has made exceptional signings... (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 18:56:57
- That's a really good, well researched article (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Jan 7, 18:50:41
  - It's extremely one-sided (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 7, 18:52:57
    - I don't really understand why he feels the need (NCFC) - norway, Jan 7, 18:56:55
      - I agree, I felt what he was saying was correct and........... (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 7, 19:23:08
    - This is the guy who supported Worthington until the end. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 18:55:05
    - because there was difference of opinion over the Palace / Sunderland results? (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Jan 7, 18:55:00
      - That would be his argument, agreed. But it fits very neatly with his thesis (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 7, 18:58:01
        
        I've been there with him too (NCFC) - norway, Jan 7, 18:58:55
      - no-one can argue the Fulham result was decent... (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 18:55:51
- does he mention we could feasibly be in the drop zone after saturdays games? (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 18:47:10
  - or that he supported glenn roeder (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 7, 18:48:40
    - ww2 (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 18:49:04
- stopped reading after the title (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 7, 18:29:55
  - Why not read it and then comment (n/m) (NCFC) - Mozzer, Jan 7, 18:32:56
    - because it's so awful (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 7, 18:34:49
      - He's kept this piece fairly fact based - go on treat yourself (NCFC) - Mozzer, Jan 7, 18:38:25
        
        is the fact we're fucking awful to watch mentioned? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 7, 18:41:35
        
        No. He does mention that we're unbeaten in 2014 (I'm not joking) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 7, 18:49:46
        
        That's an opinion - he's written about some financial facts (NCFC) - Mozzer, Jan 7, 18:46:42
        
        He's a muppet who has supported every manager in charge, even Roeder... (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 18:48:30
        
        Self confessed muppet (NCFC) - Jack Flash, Jan 7, 19:08:56
        
        Interesting. Does that mean you've thought every managerial change was wrong? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 7, 19:11:22
        
        I think I agree with Jack Flash. (NCFC) - Arganth, Jan 7, 19:23:36
        
        even if you think they are doing a terrible job? (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:31:45
        
        It's my 'role' to support. It's the board's 'role' to deal with it. (NCFC) - Arganth, Jan 7, 19:38:56
        
        agree (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Jan 7, 19:42:46
        
        superb (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 7, 19:57:13
        
        But it is nice to see the basis of your views. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:41:37
        
        Eh? The overall well-being of the club is greater than my opinion (NCFC) - Arganth, Jan 7, 19:49:48
        
        Yes a sheep, you have no view. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:51:00
        
        of course he has a view. Did you not read when he said about (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Jan 7, 19:58:27
        
        no he doesn't. I have never seen him crittize the managers decisions. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 20:02:12
        
        I'll criticise when necessary. You've obviously chosen not to read that. (NCFC) - Arganth, Jan 7, 20:13:15
        
        Great work mate (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 7, 20:08:08
        
        LOL out loud (n/m) (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Jan 7, 20:19:42
        
        So he has a different outlook to you? That's alright isn't it? (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Jan 7, 20:07:30
        
        It's a view based on zero thought (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 7, 20:10:17
        
        Lol. Dear Mr Pot...You're black. Love Mr Kettle. (NCFC) - Arganth, Jan 7, 20:17:22
        
        you base your view on faith. Like a religion. You are there to support not question. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 20:21:33
        
        I'll question, but in a constructive way. (NCFC) - Arganth, Jan 7, 20:27:28
        
        I don;t make up anything. And I don't want Hughton Out. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 20:29:15
        
        You don't? (NCFC) - Arganth, Jan 7, 20:33:54
        
        from your posts on WOTB (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 20:40:03
        
        Exactly (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 7, 20:24:04
        
        He even stated it earlier... he has no view. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 20:28:19
        
        See? You don't even read it! You're almost as bad as the troll! (NCFC) - Arganth, Jan 7, 20:31:34
        
        Shhhhh. Adults are talking. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Jan 7, 20:28:18
        
        Supporting a failing manager is harming the club... (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:40:34
        
        agree (n/m) (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Jan 7, 19:25:41
        
        i agree with crispy cock agreeing with arganth agreeing with jack flash (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 7, 19:31:18
        
        all perfectly timed apparently (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 7, 19:17:59
        
        money is destroying football (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 7, 18:48:18
        
        I entirely agree with you (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 7, 18:56:00
        
        Premiership riches have certainly sanitised and sterilised the game (NCFC) - Mozzer, Jan 7, 18:51:07
- Good article - and I think he's right that (NCFC) - Mozzer, Jan 7, 18:17:47
  - yeah, I've said that for a while (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, Jan 7, 18:52:59
- Pretty much spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 7, 18:17:39
- Cannot argue with the facts (NCFC) - LowestoftBoy, Jan 7, 18:10:40
- Decent enough article in my view? (n/m) (NCFC) - admckechnie, Jan 7, 17:48:44
- You cant really argue with his logic (NCFC) - munchen, Jan 7, 17:42:32

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