I always imagine that most cycling deaths arise where cyclists are to the left of HGVs

and the HGV driver can't see them.

That either happens due to cyclists coming up the inside (which I just think is so incredibly dangerous) or HGV's driving past and not allowing enough space and turning in.

The latter is totally and utterly unacceptable, but I'm sure avoiding cycling up the inside must help avoid some incidents?

Posted By: SimonOTBC on November 22nd 2013 at 11:24:37

Message Thread

Cyclists - it's all your own fault... (General Chat) - Pixelman, Nov 22, 11:10:51
- There's just a general impatience and intolerance on the roads these days (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Nov 22, 11:56:00
  - Dead right, its like dodgems out there most days! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Nov 22, 12:02:06
  - He might have killed you! (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 22, 12:00:27
  - haha. Agree with this - therefore nicely done. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 11:57:42
- In my experience it is usually their own fault. (General Chat) - South stand corner, Nov 22, 11:25:56
  - (by the way, this isn't actually true (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 11:47:16
    - without needing to refer to govt studies common sense dictates surely... (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 22, 11:56:13
    - Too many big words (General Chat) - norway, Nov 22, 11:53:44
      - Please tell me norway has an opinion on this. (General Chat) - South stand corner, Nov 22, 12:26:31
      - he'll be far from the only one on here who will refuse to hear it (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 11:56:59
    - Well played, stats boy (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 22, 11:49:43
    - I nearly hit a pedestrian the other day crossing a zebra crossing (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 22, 11:49:12
      - Knowing you, you did a handbrake turn and got her from the other direction (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 22, 11:50:37
        
        I was only doing about 5mph... (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 22, 11:58:54
  - Well now, who would have thought it (General Chat) - norway, Nov 22, 11:42:46
    - arf (n/m) (General Chat) - Pixelman, Nov 22, 12:00:30
    - do you still love ME though Norway? (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 22, 11:58:49
      - xxx (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Nov 22, 12:15:20
        
        GOOD. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 22, 12:20:57
  - Erm... (General Chat) - Greeny, Nov 22, 11:36:57
  - What, in your experience of killing cyclists? (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:26:31
    - No in my experience of having them do (General Chat) - South stand corner, Nov 22, 11:57:54
      - Although this is clearly a wind-up... (General Chat) - Greeny, Nov 22, 12:10:28
        
        whilst it was well put.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 22, 13:43:15
        
        Nicely put. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 12:16:44
      - And how do you respond to the actual *facts* on this, ssc? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 12:01:36
      - "fair game" that should go down well in court (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Nov 22, 12:00:54
    - lol. And South stand corner is usually such a lovely chap, too. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 11:33:32
- Wow (General Chat) - Duck, Nov 22, 11:15:51
  - It's a shared road and a shared responsibility... foolhardiness (General Chat) - Pixelman, Nov 22, 11:32:46
    - Same here driving through Cambridge on Monday night around 10:45 (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Nov 22, 11:38:29
    - You probably wouldn't have been (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:34:06
  - Fundamentally, there are bad and inconsiderate drivers out there (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 22, 11:21:50
  - Sadly it doesn't seem to make much difference how you ride (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:19:30
    - Sorry, 'want's is a bit strong (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:20:19
      - Twice in London I have had vehicles swerve at me trying to hit/intimidate me (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 22, 11:30:18
        
        Cycling or driving whilst wearing headphone is dangerous, end of! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Nov 22, 11:53:22
        
        Depressing isn't it. (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:37:21
        
        They do you know! (General Chat) - Greeny, Nov 22, 11:40:55
      - I always imagine that most cycling deaths arise where cyclists are to the left of HGVs (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 22, 11:24:37
        
        Undoubtedly not going up the inside saves people (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 22, 11:26:06
        
        That's just incredible (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 22, 11:27:56
        
        I'm a cyclist I also drive (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Nov 22, 11:42:36
        
        Nobody pays road tax - it was abolished in 1937... (General Chat) - Greeny, Nov 22, 11:47:36
        
        Good point (General Chat) - emmaroyds, Nov 22, 11:51:52
        
        I only ride in daylight, and even then have a flashing rear light on if solo... (General Chat) - Greeny, Nov 22, 11:56:58
        
        I have cycle commuted in London for 9 years (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 22, 12:00:11

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