no-one can deny that

however isn't part of the problem that once you are in the Premier League nearly everyone you play is a 'lower league' team so you have more chances of losing to one? I seem to recall as a kid (when we were in the top flight nearly all the time) we often seemed to lose to lower league teams (Bradford, Orient, Wigan etc). If we'd lost to Leicester one season earlier it wouldn't have counted as a loss to a lower league team.

Posted By: mr carra on May 28th 2013 at 15:59:05

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Martinez leaving. Graeme Jones is favourite to take over (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 13:35:11
- I dont get te media love in for Martinez.... 3yrs of relegation fight then relegated (n/m) (Other Football) - Taxi 4 Johnson, May 28, 14:06:29
  - sorted out there wage bill, lost their best players each season (Other Football) - phrankin, May 28, 14:11:47
    - The love-in was burning passionately long before the FA Cup (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 14:21:35
      - it is simple (Other Football) - Henclrikus, May 28, 15:13:39
        
        That's fair enough (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 15:21:18
        
        managers' reputations (Other Football) - Henclrikus, May 28, 15:32:44
        
        they played entertaining football, yes (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 15:15:54
        
        good football (Other Football) - Henclrikus, May 28, 15:18:40
        
        no, that's entertaining football (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 15:23:54
        
        by your definition (Other Football) - Henclrikus, May 28, 15:29:01
        
        well, they would (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 15:42:51
        
        The term "they play good football" (Other Football) - duke of york, May 28, 15:24:53
        
        Very true. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 15:22:27
    - how did he sort out their wage bill? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 14:20:16
      - He didn't. It's a myth. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 14:23:08
    - 25% win ratio (n/m) (Other Football) - Taxi 4 Johnson, May 28, 14:18:17
      - He's played this beautifully to be fair (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 14:32:30
  - mind you. he won a major trophy. i wish we would/could. (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 14:09:13
    - They've been in the Barclays Premier League longer than us though (Other Football) - mrleelee, May 28, 14:16:15
      - You won't see a penny no matter how many times you say "Barclays". (n/m) (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, May 28, 14:38:50
        
        Unlike CH lol (n/m) (Other Football) - Drinklebells, May 28, 16:12:03
      - i hope your right. i really do. (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 14:20:07
        
        Wigan's approach to the cups has been no different to ours (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 14:54:11
        
        i see your point, but that Leicester game under Lambert was (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 15:03:50
        
        I agree, it was (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 15:11:44
        
        Agree to a point. Its just a gut feeling that we havent put ourselves (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 15:27:57
        
        You can't deny that there has been a trend over quite a few years (Other Football) - duke of york, May 28, 15:21:04
        
        no-one can deny that (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 15:59:05
- How selfless of him. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 14:02:19
  - Yeah, like when he turned down the Liverpool job (Other Football) - pants, May 28, 14:22:26
    - Liverpool denied he was offered the job. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 14:28:02
      - So Martinez just flew out to New York for a break? (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, May 28, 14:34:31
        
        Also, you made a massive point of talking about how it's ok for (Other Football) - pants, May 28, 14:36:46
        
        Not being funny, pants (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 14:45:12
- Assistant turned down swans job last year (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, May 28, 13:58:10
- Surely Fat Paul will be in with a chance of going back there? (n/m) (Other Football) - Edwardo, May 28, 13:57:20
- Him off The Monkees? (n/m) (Other Football) - NorfolkSteve, May 28, 13:48:07
- The Jonester (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, May 28, 13:44:17
- Jonesy. (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, May 28, 13:42:44
  - The jonesmeister general (n/m) (Other Football) - Jumbo1, May 28, 20:01:53
- Not sure how you managed to miss Jones' career. (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, May 28, 13:42:30
- Someone educate him who Graeme Jones is FFS (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, May 28, 13:39:56
  - He's the 2002 Guiness World Record Holder for the largest model of DNA in the world (n/m) (Other Football) - Waddockhunt, May 28, 13:42:37
  - Works here in "J" Block. (n/m) (Other Football) - colincanary, May 28, 13:41:40

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