Oi Otto
This is intended as positive criticism from a big fan rather than hostility - but the latest Foxtrot Report was well below your usual standards
Two things.
First, you have become addicted to the sub-clause. The result is that the reports wasn't a good read and in some places became almost incomprehensible as sentences disappeared up their own fundamental orifices. (Prime example - "The best efforts during the first 45 minutes came from Norwich, firstly through driving central midfield play from Andrew Crofts, who hit the post and then fired over after tenacious play from right-back Russell Martin, who had more freedom to attack with the more defensively-minded Steven Smith replacing Drury on the left." That sentence is trying to do far too many things and as a result doesn't do any of them!) Shorter sentences, more clarity.
But more importantly - you now read like you're trying to imitate a "serious sports journalist". It doesn't sound like your voice any more, it sounds like someone realising they might make a career here and so trying to be serious and grown up. I don't think it works at all. You are a really good writer not least because you are fresh and funny; you puncture other people's balloons, you see quirky things; you have your own style and it's been brilliant. But the latest one reads as if you were dissatisfied with your old voice and looking for a new one, one which you hope will be more employable. Of course one should never get trapped in a literary style for ever - but this isn't really your voice, it isn't working yet.
Unless it is, of course, and I'm just talking out of my arse as usual.
Posted By: Old Git on October 25th 2010 at 11:41:01
Message Thread
- Oi Otto (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 25, 11:41:01
- Poor old Otto did have to spend the day with the wrath crew though so his head probably (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 12:25:50
- FFFS! (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:36:19
- HER head, HER (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 25, 12:36:13
- Yes, sorry and thanks for pointing out. (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 12:44:35
- *rolls eyes* I mean how difficult can it BE!!?? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 25, 12:46:39
- I see the person, not the person's sexuality or gender. (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 12:57:05
- ^^^^^ Expertly deploys secondary chute (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:59:12
- But I do and I don't know Otto very well and I certainly would be very upset if I had or (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 13:03:25
- Loj. Stop digging. You won't have. At all. See down there VVVVV (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 13:08:16
- her (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 13:07:10
- fuck it I int very good at this am I. (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 13:10:45
- You also need to sit with us next time. I'd like to discuss all that is wrong with the (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 13:17:48
- I still carry the hangover of that day Meggers, I was at a Bday party Saturday (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 13:20:09
- This is allowable you are excused! The general consensus following your brief hello (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 13:27:48
- ^^^ This! ^^^ (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 13:36:36
- thanks folks , I will do my best. (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 13:40:46
- ^^^ This! ^^^ (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 13:36:36
- This is allowable you are excused! The general consensus following your brief hello (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 13:27:48
- I still carry the hangover of that day Meggers, I was at a Bday party Saturday (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 13:20:09
- You also need to sit with us next time. I'd like to discuss all that is wrong with the (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 13:17:48
- fuck it I int very good at this am I. (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 13:10:45
- But I do and I don't know Otto very well and I certainly would be very upset if I had or (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 13:03:25
- ^^^^^ Expertly deploys secondary chute (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:59:12
- I see the person, not the person's sexuality or gender. (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 12:57:05
- *rolls eyes* I mean how difficult can it BE!!?? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 25, 12:46:39
- It's not that clear really (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 12:41:45
- There may well be people who don't know (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 25, 12:46:06
- Me too to be honest and I must say I was rather disappointed not to read Otto's take on (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 12:48:13
- lol (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 12:43:35
- There may well be people who don't know (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 25, 12:46:06
- Good job, fella (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 12:38:13
- Yes, sorry and thanks for pointing out. (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 12:44:35
- Unless it was done covertly, I don't think any Roti cruet robbery was committed. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 12:28:04
- I think you will find ... (General Chat) - meeky, Oct 25, 12:46:50
- Brilliant. Top work James Nasium (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 13:53:53
- Was Todge in the concrete ? Still love his story about Unlce Ken (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 12:28:45
- He turned up just as they left... (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Oct 25, 12:29:14
- I think you will find ... (General Chat) - meeky, Oct 25, 12:46:50
- lol (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:27:02
- Thanks for that (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 11:53:28
- I read your bit in The League Paper a minute ago. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Oct 25, 11:57:39
- My pleasure (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 25, 11:55:22
- APB did the saving, really, I just stood there and kept an eye on things! (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 11:59:12
- *Blushes* (General Chat) - APB, Oct 25, 12:42:24
- ^^^^He can, it's true. (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Oct 25, 12:45:57
- *Blushes* (General Chat) - APB, Oct 25, 12:42:24
- APB did the saving, really, I just stood there and kept an eye on things! (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 11:59:12
- ^ thinly veiled fuck off Git post ^ (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Oct 25, 11:54:03
- I don't tend to veil my 'fuck off Git' posts! (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 11:57:28
- lik uve got da guts 4 dat (General Chat) - Skinner, Oct 25, 12:00:42
- I don't tend to veil my 'fuck off Git' posts! (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 11:57:28
- i thought suffern was up with it, but couldnt put my finger on it (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 25, 11:45:41
- and (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 11:45:20
- That's two sentences. The clue is in the use of the ".". (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 11:59:29
- Schteve's only doing it because he loves Otto and wants to defend him (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 25, 12:18:17
- *her* (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 25, 12:21:17
- Her (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 12:20:34
- Gitters (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:20:25
- Good work fella! (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 25, 12:23:06
- Haha! (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 12:24:25
- Considering the (justified) stick i get for that, I consider it my mission in life now! (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:28:03
- It happens, don't worry too much about it. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 12:36:24
- Agreed, it isn't on here. Gits right about the meeting, it does seperate the mental image (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:48:16
- loj has just done one up there ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 25, 12:34:32
- I know, I lolled that instead, as the content was funny. I'll add a FFFS! (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:36:05
- good stuff. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 25, 12:38:50
- I know, I lolled that instead, as the content was funny. I'll add a FFFS! (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:36:05
- It happens, don't worry too much about it. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 12:36:24
- Good day all round Saturday wasn't it? How was the dungeon? (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 25, 12:26:29
- At the risk of talking something up (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:31:26
- Yep. (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 25, 12:32:19
- I'm sorry. (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:46:19
- ? (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 25, 12:51:54
- I thought I may have talked up the aforementioned (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:57:39
- ah (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 25, 12:58:19
- I thought I may have talked up the aforementioned (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:57:39
- ? (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 25, 12:51:54
- I'm sorry. (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:46:19
- Yep. (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 25, 12:32:19
- The dungeon was perfectly serviceable as a place to sleep. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 12:27:43
- How do you know there wasn't? (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Oct 25, 12:28:43
- Actually, that would explain an awful lot ... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 12:29:45
- How do you know there wasn't? (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Oct 25, 12:28:43
- At the risk of talking something up (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:31:26
- Considering the (justified) stick i get for that, I consider it my mission in life now! (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 25, 12:28:03
- Haha! (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 25, 12:24:25
- Git's old skool - he doesn't get all this gender bending lark (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Oct 25, 12:21:53
- Good work fella! (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Oct 25, 12:23:06
- Seconded! (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Oct 25, 12:19:13
- That is an all. Cos (like I just did), he chucked in a random full stop. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 12:13:43
- Schteve's only doing it because he loves Otto and wants to defend him (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 25, 12:18:17
- That's two sentences. The clue is in the use of the ".". (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 25, 11:59:29
- "The result is that the reports wasn't a good read" (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 11:43:09
- Poor old Otto did have to spend the day with the wrath crew though so his head probably (General Chat) - lovely old job, Oct 25, 12:25:50
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