maybe, altho

goals at this stage have been stable at about 30 or so since 1986. Until this tournament. Have the minnows really got noticeably less naive over the last 4 years, compared to the previous 20? Mebbe.

Or mebbe it's just a statistical oddity, and things will be more like previous ones from now on.

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on June 16th 2010 at 10:43:05

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nicked from Guardian....goals after 14 games of WC (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 10:18:31
- Can't have been that extensive. Cos there were 32 goals after 14 games of 2006 (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 13:27:06
  - apologies for posting this here (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 13:29:22
    - quite interesting, actually - seeing that (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 13:32:25
- the lack of goals isnt the biggest worry, for me its the lack of engaging games (NCFC) - samcd84, Jun 16, 10:47:46
  - it wasn't a secret that the Germans etc. were using the new ball (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 16, 11:12:57
    - before it all started (NCFC) - camcan, Jun 16, 11:17:31
    - Think it was something to do with Adidas being a sponsor of the French and German leagues (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 11:15:57
      - Yep, and the Prem has an exclusive deal with Nike so we couldn't use them (n/m) (NCFC) - DemoniCanary, Jun 16, 11:41:14
  - Wasn't the same suggested at the beginning of the tournament in Germany (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Jun 16, 10:59:06
  - how long have all the nations in the world cup had the ball to train with now? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 16, 10:54:36
    - No wonder they're having problems with it then (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 16, 10:57:53
- That really does prove that you can manipulate stats however you want to (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 10:45:16
  - does it? In what way? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 10:47:02
    - Because you've taken a stat (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 10:50:51
      - It *is* the lowest ever (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jun 16, 10:54:49
        
        agree with that. Which was why I said "whatever you make of that" (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 10:57:04
        
        I seem to remember always thinking the WC was boring at this stage. Only (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 11:04:52
      - 'goals after 14 games of WC' (NCFC) - HoofinHughes, Jun 16, 10:54:25
      - er, the stat is obviously the lowest ever after 14 games (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 10:52:13
        
        Nicely loaded argument (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 10:56:50
        
        LOL. Don't admit your mistake, whatever you do ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 11:02:48
        
        After 15 games of 2009/10, we were the worst team ever (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 11:09:57
        
        pants - no idea why I'm bothering, but (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 11:54:04
        
        Don't then (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 12:00:39
        
        Fella, this time you're wrong. (NCFC) - Arganth, Jun 16, 12:12:17
        
        F*ck me you can be exasperating at times (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 12:10:34
        
        TH, It is just pant being pants. (n/m) (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Jun 16, 12:27:04
        
        Don't worry TH, you didn't make anything up, or mis-report anything - (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 16, 12:26:52
        
        Without seeing the main body of this predictable drivel.You once sided with Selwyn over me (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 12:36:32
        
        ... (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 12:51:15
        
        He should do a protagonist one (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 12:57:57
        
        cock (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jun 16, 13:55:15
        
        qualify "worst team ever" (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 11:34:26
        
        ?? (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jun 16, 11:23:23
        
        Well after the 15th game in league one was played, we were bottom of the league (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 11:33:29
        
        Now I see the point you're trying to make: (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jun 16, 12:49:42
        
        Indeed. Hence me saying, in the original post, "Whatever you make of that." (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 13:01:06
        
        I guess you could compare to our other (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 16, 11:41:06
        
        Worst start would have been fine (NCFC) - pants, Jun 16, 11:55:55
        
        Where did he say "worst ever" ?! (n/m) (NCFC) - HoofinHughes, Jun 16, 11:59:41
        
        !! (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 16, 11:25:51
- Less "naive" minnows (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 16, 10:41:08
  - yep, a massive factor (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jun 16, 10:44:29
    - only one game, but - if that were true - shouldn't Brazil have splanked NK last night? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 10:48:31
      - no thats the whole point, the N Koreans were quite tactically aware (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Jun 16, 11:03:15
      - I thought it was a good game regardless of reputations and result (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jun 16, 10:52:46
      - I was agreeing with the point that teams are less naive (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jun 16, 10:50:28
      - splanked? spanked, I think. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 10:48:50
        
        is that a cross between spanking and sploshing - pervert! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 16, 10:56:17
        
        I'd TM splanked, it's rather good (NCFC) - camcan, Jun 16, 10:50:16
  - maybe, altho (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 10:43:05
    - a fair amount is due to the ball and the altitude... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jun 16, 10:48:59
      - I agree with the tactics thing (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jun 16, 11:04:13
        
        there does seem to be a lot of 4-5-1 about (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 16, 11:10:26
        
        well thats Dungas preferred formation so it was always going to happen (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Jun 16, 11:14:48
        
        yeah, but hoofball is OUR game (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 16, 11:29:18
        
        Actually, I don't think they've ever minded... (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jun 16, 11:31:46
    - I don't feel any different from other world cups (NCFC) - camcan, Jun 16, 10:48:49
  - although Honduras may buck the trend today (n/m) (NCFC) - camcan, Jun 16, 10:42:47
- its because they choose the finals to introduce a new ball (NCFC) - conkers, Jun 16, 10:25:33
  - it's still a fucking football, unless they've suddenly started making it out of lead they (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 16, 10:32:50
    - why less goals than ever before then, scrammers? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 16, 10:33:56
      - taller goalkeepers... (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 16, 10:39:48
        
        like the Mexican goalie ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 11:08:24
        
        I agree with a lot of that but I have never seen a ball misjudged so much (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jun 16, 10:52:22
        
        could it be due to the partly artifical pitches...if so it would explain alot of the going (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Jun 16, 11:10:11
        
        Bounce possibly has more to do with the pitch though (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jun 16, 10:57:12
        
        And there have been so many overhit crosses and passes (NCFC) - jamesward, Jun 16, 10:54:16
        
        is it? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 16, 10:57:16
  - apart from ze Germans and South America. (n/m) (NCFC) - Al NCFC4life, Jun 16, 10:28:13
    - and France (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jun 16, 11:08:41
- The ball is a big naughty one. Too round for its own good. (n/m) (NCFC) - songwriter, Jun 16, 10:24:11
- bigger goals to cope with taller goalkeepers (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 16, 10:21:34

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