Is that why people fall out with you?

I was just making a flippant comment and you seem to suggest that I am a Gunn apologist?

Lets get a few facts straight...

1) Roeder was not sacked because of one result. He was on a bad run of results and had fallen out with the fans and maybe players / staff. Why did Clarke leave? The board did panic but not due to fan pressure but over their own fears about season tickets. Roeder had quite a lot of good will which his pissed away beacuse he couldn't take the pressure and tried a risky recruitment strategy. He was the architect of his own downfall. Get over it.

2) Saying that, the game against Charlton in the cup was one of the worst performances I have seen in my 20 plus years of going to games. As far as I understand, you were in York that evening.

3) Unlike many fans I did not welcome the sacking of Roeder. I was still on the fence. Like you I recognise the problems that manager instability cause. The problem is we keep appointing poor managers.

4) I was livid with the club when they appointed Gunn. I have calmed down now but think, like Grant, he is a huge risk.

Posted By: Cart Gap Disco on June 4th 2009 at 11:07:13

Message Thread

Might be WW2 - just seen we are back in the ressies league next season (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Jun 4, 10:17:58
- Part of the Roeder Revolution (NCFC) - Cart Gap Disco, Jun 4, 10:22:31
  - Those sacked hardly won academy awards either (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 10:48:03
    - Is that why people fall out with you? (NCFC) - Cart Gap Disco, Jun 4, 11:07:13
      - I'll never understand the vitriolic way we purge managers out (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 11:11:16
        
        I welcomed Roeders attempt to reform the club assuming that (NCFC) - Cart Gap Disco, Jun 4, 11:27:19
        
        I guess, and I might have agreed but (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 11:32:24
        
        Fair enough... (NCFC) - Cart Gap Disco, Jun 4, 11:41:53
        
        This is what I liked (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 12:00:38
        
        I agree regarding Gunn (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 11:53:43
        
        Yeah it is potentially as catastrophic as Grant (NCFC) - Cart Gap Disco, Jun 4, 11:59:22
        
        I agree with that in hindsight (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 12:25:39
        
        it's difficult though (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 12:01:07
        
        I agree and fans are much less patient than they used to be (NCFC) - Cart Gap Disco, Jun 4, 12:05:08
        
        I'll never understand the vitriol managers pour in the fans' direction (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jun 4, 11:14:29
        
        Oh come off it (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 11:16:57
        
        I was trolling (NCFC) - duke of york, Jun 4, 11:18:18
        
        naughty (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 11:21:20
        
        The answer would be for the board to appoint the right man in the first place. (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jun 4, 11:14:26
        
        oh dear (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 11:17:43
        
        Whats the matter? Small chunk of poo just run down your leg? (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jun 4, 11:21:32
        
        perhaps, but if it did it came from your mouth (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 11:22:49
        
        Thats the most hypocritical post ever considering you talk more shit (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jun 4, 11:24:01
        
        what one posts on other subjects is not relevant here (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 11:26:02
        
        Point proven - Thank you (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jun 4, 11:27:48
    - ... (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 4, 11:05:11
      - rolf (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 11:11:05
    - Time to move on i feel (NCFC) - HoofinHughes, Jun 4, 10:55:48
    - which loan players couldn't play? (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 10:54:48
      - could Jonathan Grounds play? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 4, 11:06:02
        
        He wasn't playing vs Charlton (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 11:09:32
      - And the morale of the story is............... (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jun 4, 11:04:53
        
        except one knew how to keep us in this division (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 11:12:26
        
        I think you've forgotten the run of form (NCFC) - duke of york, Jun 4, 11:15:23
        
        Is that time machine available on freeware? (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 11:17:35
        
        Well, we were weren't we? (NCFC) - duke of york, Jun 4, 11:18:59
        
        When the basis of a point of view stems from knowing the future (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 11:23:07
        
        isn't your entire reasoning "roeder would have kept us up" (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 11:24:48
        
        10 words 1 lie (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 11:41:09
        
        So you don't think Roeder would have kept us up? (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jun 4, 12:37:38
        
        I don't know do I? (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 13:41:28
        
        I'm not sure your analysis is correct about Roeder (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jun 4, 13:59:29
        
        I do think that if we hadn't lost Hooly and Crofty (NCFC) - duke of york, Jun 4, 13:44:44
        
        losing them to was a massive blow (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jun 4, 13:48:21
        
        *the two (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jun 4, 13:48:36
        
        *them two (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jun 4, 13:48:46
        
        FFS! (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jun 4, 13:49:13
        
        multiple forum fail (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 13:50:29
        
        I'm glad to hear it ends here (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 11:46:53
        
        You chucked in one mooohasive assumption (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 12:03:11
        
        ok, lets forget it then (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 12:08:12
        
        fair enough (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 12:22:45
        
        look it's fine (NCFC) - Charles21, Jun 4, 12:46:06
        
        cool, we'll see (NCFC) - pants, Jun 4, 13:34:30
        
        here's the table... (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 4, 11:19:56
        
        Is that the on ewho has a hadbit of keeping them up one year and taking tehm down the next (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jun 4, 11:15:08
        
        *Really should proof read!! lol (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jun 4, 11:15:24
        
        moral (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 4, 11:07:25
        
        Thanks PC. Promotion to inspector if you keep this up!!! (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jun 4, 11:09:57
        
        just doing my job sir (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 4, 11:11:19
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jun 4, 11:11:36

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