what do you mean by this stuff about managers 'challenging them'?

I genuinely have no idea what you mean by that. I certainly don;t think Grant or Roeder were shrinking violets.

And usally when people talk about managers challenging the board, they mean - "can a manager get money out of them?"

but I thought the consensus was that this board have spent too much on players, not too little. (Of course, as it turned out, s**t players, who were recommended by the managers in question. But that suggests the managers were too powerful, not too weak.)

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on May 28th 2009 at 21:20:07

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Quite sensible by the club, really (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 19:47:18
- "Creo's breakdown" (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 20:11:05
  - We've done our bit over the years with our support...... (NCFC) - Thrapwinkle, May 28, 20:20:04
    - Sure. I'm not meaning to criticise anyone who claims it (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 20:23:34
      - I don't think anyone wants the club to fail (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 20:27:24
        
        Our guaranteed loyalty is taken advantage of again and again. (NCFC) - Thrapwinkle, May 28, 20:32:15
        
        the protests under Chase were about replacing him with something better (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 20:29:31
        
        Not at this point, no. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 20:32:57
        
        Well to answer that I need to strip out the patronising and the history lessons (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 20:39:14
        
        I'm not patronising anyone. It's what you seem to be doing to be honest. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 20:47:23
        
        well, we agree entirely about Gunn. (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 20:57:55
        
        I think it'd take something much more drastic to send us into admin. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 21:07:54
        
        what do you mean by this stuff about managers 'challenging them'? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 21:20:07
        
        Not just in terms of money. I mean in terms of how the entire club is run (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 21:28:42
        
        doesn't Roeder's appointment show that opinion (NCFC) - Charles21, May 28, 21:16:13
        
        Not at all. Roeder was thought by Newcastle and West Ham fans to be too nice (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 21:22:40
        
        ? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 21:25:04
        
        No no - I meant Munby and Doncaster made clear their belief (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 21:31:11
        
        I also seem to remember Delia saying (NCFC) - Charles21, May 28, 21:27:53
  - I think that with Delias new book the Foulger and potential fan investment (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 28, 20:14:58
    - sure, agree with that (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 20:16:36
      - But these debates will sone turn into... (NCFC) - Small, May 28, 20:22:20
      - Creo's breakdown is simply a reminder of how little can be put towards the playing budget (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 20:21:29
        
        eh? You do realise he entirely made the numbers up? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 20:25:52
        
        The general point he was making was clear though (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 20:29:22
        
        I don't see why or how he demonstrated that (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 20:31:57
        
        I'm not really bothered either way. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 20:37:31
- I would like to see the breakdown but can't see any creo posts. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 28, 20:02:47
  - ... (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 20:04:25
    - thanks I read that on the pink un (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 28, 20:10:23
- Transparency is what's needed (NCFC) - Bonzo, May 28, 19:53:52
  - Wouldn't make any difference if they did (NCFC) - Bryan Salad Surgery, May 28, 19:54:57
    - I think your new message board alias should be (NCFC) - Paul_Drake_PigFarmer, May 28, 20:21:53
    - Fungibility (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, May 28, 20:03:09
      - That would explain a lot (n/m) (NCFC) - Small, May 28, 20:10:48
    - I agree - but the greater the shortfall, the more the club suffers (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 28, 20:00:06

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