I think the Henville bloke became an issue

because of Glenn Roeder's insistence on using loan players, even bloody young guys that we weren't going to play but let train with us - henville. His stated policy was loan players. Therefore the failures became a sore point in a way that won't happen with Gunn.

With Gunn it can't be an issue yet as he has arrived following a transfer window so has had no choice. We've needed a striker so he gambled on this guy who then turned out to be s**te. Big deal. Glenn left him with no strikers so he made a gamble. It failed.

The two things aren't comparable imo.

Posted By: Charles21 on April 21st 2009 at 16:04:54

Message Thread

See Towergate are really f**ked then! (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 21, 13:59:01
- I wouldn't discount him yet (NCFC) - Ben, Apr 21, 14:59:41
- Cullum can go fuck himself, put your money where your mouth is you lip licking cunt (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Apr 21, 14:44:31
  - Yes obviously it was all to get a few cheap column inches in the f**king EDP! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 21, 14:52:09
    - Show me the money? That should hav (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Apr 21, 14:55:16
      - e been the EDP headline followed by fuck off then you gimp (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Apr 21, 14:56:30
        
        Timing was not great but what can you do when they won't talk to you! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 21, 15:10:14
        
        how did they not talk to him? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:10:56
        
        because they never f**king met him! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 21, 15:42:23
        
        I think its was more being talked at, than talking to. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 15:13:18
    - agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 14:53:02
      - Enough agreeing already (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Apr 21, 14:57:43
        
        greed (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:01:06
  - agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 14:48:04
- He promised he wouldn't see us go down though (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 14:05:25
  - He's going to shut his eyes (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 21, 14:27:52
  - he said he wouldn't see us go down the tubes (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 21, 14:09:05
- we need to get over this Cullum thing (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 13:59:34
  - Rubbish - he is (and always has been) our main hope (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 21, 14:17:28
  - Err, why? (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 21, 14:04:25
    - Agree with now, our board have no excuses, if they have the club at heart (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 14:07:17
      - Most sensible pants post EVER. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 21, 14:29:49
      - Wierd, i still feel an instinctive reaction to wade in and defend the club on the Cullum (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 14:14:34
        
        Takes two to tango (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 21, 14:25:57
        
        Its does. (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 14:41:55
        
        You ahve to take a risk or two (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 21, 14:51:36
        
        Yep, i can see the sense in that, and like i say, i'd welcome him (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 14:55:54
        
        agree with that (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 14:20:23
      - But the point about relegation is that it may well mean the board/Delia won't be ABLE (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 21, 14:13:22
        
        I feel slightly guilty saying this (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 21, 14:15:46
        
        ego te absolvo (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 21, 14:27:27
        
        I felt like this the season we sacked Worthington, that it might not (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 14:22:59
        
        we should have sacked worthington when we left the prem (NCFC) - camcan, Apr 21, 14:52:54
        
        Without hindsight I completely and utterly disagree (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:06:09
        
        except (NCFC) - camcan, Apr 21, 15:30:21
        
        with hindsight i agree, at the time though i'd have said it was the right thing to at (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 21, 15:02:58
        
        Hindsight shows CC is right, I was in Ralf's camp at the time though (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 15:09:07
        
        that should have been almost a third of the next season (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 15:12:38
        
        Burnley was the 10th league game (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 21, 15:15:58
        
        Well there you go then. Had they sacked him after 9, the planets would have re-alligned (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 15:28:14
        
        I thought Worthington was in last chance saloon when he took us down (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 15:01:57
        
        Actually, that's about right. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 14:25:41
        
        I just remember like below, games like Burnley at home (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 14:36:19
        
        And you know what? I'd probably take that squad now. As bad as it was (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 14:44:46
        
        For me, we found out just what it was about (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 14:55:16
        
        it was Roeder's valuation of Taylor (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 21, 15:06:07
        
        any evidence for these "promises"? (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:00:18
        
        I do think that promise was a joke, and all parties intended for it to be seen as such, (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 14:58:45
        
        See in the middle of all the spin (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 15:06:45
        
        But if it was Roeder walking away....... (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 15:11:57
        
        I've seen it too many times with us now (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 15:19:28
        
        or we could've broken the bank for someone like Billy Sharp (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:23:51
        
        Yeah, but all transfers are like that, there is a degree of punt in them all (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 15:37:41
        
        the thing with all of these though (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:13:57
        
        All true, can't deny it. Suppose that's part of what makes the game interesting (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 15:14:59
        
        yeah I'm happy to discuss (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:20:43
        
        I agree on the cullum thing too, and i could be wrong, but like you (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 15:30:40
        
        Equally when fans feel they've got their way, the same conclusions become ridiculous (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 15:51:17
        
        Yeah, as much as your constant use of that issue irks me, you have a point, (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 15:57:38
        
        cool (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 16:20:46
        
        In a bitchy sense (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 16:45:44
        
        "but is still going round most threads of mine and replying." (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 21, 17:10:58
        
        I think he means me actually (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 17:34:28
        
        "And I know he can read what I'm saying so that's all that matters." (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 18:16:23
        
        well if I'm being ignored and you can't read it (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 18:20:08
        
        You mistake me having you on ignore (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 18:24:19
        
        I don't mistake anything (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 18:28:46
        
        "please reply pants, please, please reply, I need this, it's like food (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 18:31:30
        
        I think the Henville bloke became an issue (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 16:04:54
        
        Gunn arrived in the middle of a transfer window (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 21, 16:16:23
        
        True, but the stick isn't in the right proportions for me. As I said, was non plussed (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 16:15:58
        
        agree (NCFC) - pants, Apr 21, 16:23:02
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Apr 21, 16:40:27
        
        Killen has been a failure (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:54:45
        
        yeah I'm happy to discuss (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:19:51
        
        just because you don't like an answer it doesn't mean that it's automatically spin (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 21, 15:10:54
        
        thank you (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:12:15
        
        because we don't have the money? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 15:08:29
        
        we are never happy (NCFC) - Charles21, Apr 21, 14:47:52
        
        i think that's the one positive that we're all clinging to should relegation happen (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 21, 14:19:41
        
        and the 20% rebate of course... (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Apr 21, 14:22:30
        
        not us non-season ticket holders (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 21, 14:24:39
        
        DoY is the master rebater though (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 21, 14:41:22

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