i'm referring to journalists as a whole

i think that they, as a collective; as a profession; have something of an image problem

whilst i may feel sorry for any of them that have lost their jobs on an individual level, i am yet to be convinced that you have a cause worth worrying about

perhaps fewer people doing a better job (cream rising to the top?) providing the news in a way that people want, isn't going to mean the death of accountablity for those in the publis eye

(and i am not advocating citizen-journalists as the altenative)

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on March 7th 2009 at 14:00:02

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the question is... (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 11:54:49
- who's your victim today? (General Chat) - pants, Mar 7, 13:13:47
  - it's never been my intention to make you feel like a victim pants (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 13:34:26
    - I was jesting (General Chat) - pants, Mar 7, 14:13:15
      - the smiley face should've been the clue that i was jesting too... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 14:37:42
      - anyhows (General Chat) - pants, Mar 7, 14:27:16
        
        i don't think you do know my viewpoint though pants (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 14:42:28
        
        I think I do (General Chat) - pants, Mar 7, 14:48:51
        
        That IS too contradictory (General Chat) - DJ Ginga, Mar 7, 14:48:10
        
        i admit it's neither easy or straightforward (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 15:43:32
        
        Nice post (General Chat) - DJ Ginga, Mar 7, 14:31:44
    - Ah, someone who doesn't like me (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 13:37:29
      - i have no particular feelings about you either way (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 13:46:03
        
        Well, you have taken a sarcastic pleasure in trying to (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 13:49:02
        
        perhaps i am being a cunt (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 14:03:04
        
        Haha (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 14:09:54
        
        "I really do think that we'll lose something if we lose proper news reporting." (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 14:33:23
        
        Indeed - it's making that pay that's important (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 14:34:48
  - He's not clever enough (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 13:25:48
- Don't think I said they were (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 12:11:49
  - oh ok, so they're the saviours of democracy only (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 12:46:20
    - I'm a journalist and I resent that (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 7, 13:51:16
      - Are there job cuts on your paper Worzel? (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 13:56:02
        
        Yep, I'm in finance, so our clients are in deep shit (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 7, 14:03:39
      - I still don't understand (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Mar 7, 13:53:04
        
        CBBC does a good news round up for people like you (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 13:53:43
        
        Yeah I tried that a few times (General Chat) - Charles21, Mar 7, 13:58:16
    - Do you seriously think that reflects (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 13:25:11
      - i'm not the one suggesting local journalists are somehow all holier than thou (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 13:28:06
        
        Don't think I was suggesting that either (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 13:31:46
        
        you're the one throwing around insults (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 13:40:32
        
        I don't think I was blaming anything on evil capitalists either (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 13:43:41
        
        i'm referring to journalists as a whole (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 14:00:02
        
        I don't see how less journalists will do a better job (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 14:07:38
        
        times have changed though, there are so many different forms of media now that (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Mar 7, 14:17:40
        
        Yes, rolling news and the web mainly (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 14:24:22
        
        I've given my suggestion, for what it's worth, further down the board... (n/m) (General Chat) - DJ Ginga, Mar 7, 14:40:46
        
        I think it will have to come to charging (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 14:44:11
        
        Exactly. And we'll have to like it or (they'll) lump it. (n/m) (General Chat) - DJ Ginga, Mar 7, 14:51:23
        
        i thought many of the nationals binned their subscription services? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 14:46:49
        
        Yeah, they did (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 14:54:33
        
        One day we'll be paying for Google. Then we'll be proper fucked. (n/m) (General Chat) - DJ Ginga, Mar 7, 14:57:23
        
        Nicely put (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 7, 14:12:49
        
        You're wrong. SOME people have a problem with journalists because (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 7, 14:05:49
        
        totally agree DoY (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 7, 13:53:53
        
        perhaps i'm just highlighting the reality that journalists aren't very well liked (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 14:12:07
        
        By whom? I've never had any grief whatsoever (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 7, 14:16:32
        
        Me too (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 14:17:51
        
        they still do ;) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 7, 14:46:29
        
        that's why the rest of us Wrath... (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 7, 15:55:35
        
        Actually, bankers have now slipped to the top (or bottom) (General Chat) - duke of york, Mar 7, 14:13:54
        
        Have to say I agree with DoY too. (n/m) (General Chat) - DJ Ginga, Mar 7, 13:59:18

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