yes but

"Something has gone wrong somewhere"

i.e. someone has to be to blamed, something has to have gone on that we're just not being told about, he's got to have had a big old bust up with the manager because there just couldn't possibly be any other explanation

like AB i've certainly "never in my life heard of a good player struggling to make an early impact in a new side following a transfer" not without there being more to it than someone struggling to come to terms with new surroundings

Posted By: blindasabat on October 10th 2008 at 10:40:41

Message Thread

What's the deal with Hoolahan? (NCFC) - big member, Oct 10, 10:13:05
- Here's my groat's worth (NCFC) - camcan, Oct 10, 11:32:28
  - Sounds a bit like Croft (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:42:44
  - Spot on. (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 10, 11:35:53
- I am similarly perplexed. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 10:26:25
  - lol. Is he a little hucks like, in that does he really have a position? (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 10:33:17
    - I wondered about centre-mid, alongside Clingan, or Fotheringham, if he ever remembers how (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 10:56:25
      - He played really well in the pre-season friendlies. (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 10, 11:01:53
        
        Could be the future. Too attacking for Roeder though? (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 11:08:19
        
        I have it on reasonable authority that (NCFC) - big member, Oct 10, 11:13:31
        
        reasonable authority (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 10, 11:24:37
        
        bit better than that (NCFC) - big member, Oct 10, 11:45:32
        
        Yet, many were all so damning of Grant for being the nice guy and pandering to players? (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:24:22
        
        were they?? (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 10, 11:42:25
        
        But when did Grant ever criticise the better players? (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:44:46
        
        Youssef Safri (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 10, 11:55:22
        
        Croft - through the press, before he'd even informed Croft of his displeasure. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 10, 11:51:26
        
        Cureton (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 10, 11:50:46
        
        wasn't that roeder? (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 11:44:32
        
        or am i getting all mixed up again? (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 11:45:33
        
        No, that was Grant (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 10, 11:50:32
        
        ah yes, hadn't he got 2 or something? went for the hat trick when a pass was on? (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 12:05:33
        
        After the 5-2 v Barnet - slated Curo for going for a hat-trick. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 10, 11:51:42
        
        I'm glad with a new man around, Cureton has really shown him since (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:12:49
        
        There's a lot of shit in that post...firstly... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Oct 10, 12:25:34
        
        He got his number of games wrong, means at this point (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 12:31:08
        
        ah right - a 100% record at home...I remember when that used to happen (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Oct 10, 12:35:09
        
        Look, he's probably being harsh on him, but NW WAS under pressure. (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 12:42:39
        
        hazey memory, five games in then when we lost to forest (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:30:44
        
        In 2002/03, he got about 300k to spend, and look at the season we had... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Oct 10, 12:29:19
        
        a season of denial really (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:35:22
        
        what would you rather? (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 10, 12:48:29
        
        keep twisting (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:51:50
        
        keep not answering valud points (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 10, 12:54:20
        
        valid (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 10, 12:54:27
        
        What's the point when you're just twisting my views? (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:56:18
        
        just forget it (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 10, 13:12:34
        
        good (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 13:15:02
        
        what did you want them to say then?? (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 10, 13:28:07
        
        I wanted them to be realistic (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 14:22:35
        
        Sad times!! (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 10, 16:22:23
        
        05/06 I mean (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 14:25:48
        
        not really...4pts off going into Wolves game (NCFC) - Brandonio, Oct 10, 12:44:47
        
        I read that as what pants meant, spent little did ok. Or have i got that wrong? (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 12:34:25
        
        nope, I meant it as (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:46:45
        
        Last three lines of that are interesting, I'd like to see what GR could do (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 12:52:03
        
        that's the one (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Oct 10, 11:55:00
        
        I believe there may be something in that, like you say its a shame, (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 11:16:56
        
        True, and he's supposed to be a professional, and should act like one (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:25:48
        
        I really wouldn't attach too much importance on what players are saying in the papers (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 11:32:46
        
        what players are saying in the papers (NCFC) - camcan, Oct 10, 11:40:15
        
        was Wesold picked because he was Irish and it was the Irish Daily Mail doing the asking? (n/m) (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 10, 11:45:32
        
        that would be logical (NCFC) - camcan, Oct 10, 11:49:13
        
        Totally, but if he did sound off (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:39:07
        
        Exactly, if IF he was dropped for being late, doesn't mean there has to be a bust up (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 11:28:18
        
        snot exciting though is it? (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:38:31
        
        i'm no great fan of Alan, but i do believe him on this (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 10, 11:16:46
        
        ohh hadn't seen that, fair enough then. (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 11:17:42
        
        Bristol (n/m) (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 10, 11:09:06
        
        topical (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:12:56
  - what's with the cunty answer? (NCFC) - Rofl_Harris, Oct 10, 10:31:15
    - Cunty answer? Me? (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 10:38:14
      - seeing as most of the Pants Massive hasn't seen him actually play for us... (NCFC) - Rofl_Harris, Oct 10, 11:01:37
        
        Result. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 10, 11:07:12
        
        I'm not entirely sure why the whole 'not seen him play' thing matters (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 11:10:22
      - Isn't the real irony... (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Oct 10, 10:47:31
        
        haha, I was wondering when I'd get a mention (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:03:16
      - One man's irony is another man's c**ty (NCFC) - Nelsons final flanel, Oct 10, 10:43:09
        
        Merkins don't get irony, but they do get c**nty. (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 10:50:14
    - That's not his point though was it? Not saying he hasn't struggled (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 10:34:22
      - yes but (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 10, 10:40:41
        
        True, ROEDER OUT. (NCFC) - megson, Oct 10, 10:49:42
  - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 10:27:02
- Don't believe the rumours, it's a smear campaign (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 10, 10:20:24
  - aided by citv (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 10:22:37
- Roeder cannot obviously handle him Wes is a great player (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Oct 10, 10:14:47
- Depends if you interpret rumour as fact I guess (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 10:14:39
  - whaddya mean? (NCFC) - blindasabat, Oct 10, 10:18:36

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