It's an interesting proposal
The UK is certainly falling behind other OECD countries in terms of the number of people we have progressing through to
Level 4 (i.e Higher Education), so they are making changes at Levels 1, 2 and 3 to try to combat this.
So the new Diplomas at Level 3 will create a clearer route into HE for students who would have done BTECs et al in the
past. The Diplomas also give a flexibility to the learner..there are core units and boundaries, but there is also the
opportunity to mix and match qualifications in order to achieve their diploma..so there will be a mix of vocational stuff and
academic rigour.
There are going to be some massive problems in delivering these Diplomas though. one major one being that as part of the
Dip, every single student has to take up an industry experience placement as part of their course, and there simply aren't
enough places to take them in.
As for academic rigour, well that's something which will be shown in time. Russell group Uni admissions people always
f**king moan about everything, so their comments are no great surprise.
There is no reason why McDonalds shouldn't be able to deliver this training successfully, they are a large organisation with
a lot of wedge behind them. Unfortunately they have shot themselves in the foot by being so abysmal in other areas in the
past, so whether anyone takes their qual seriously is another matter.
Posted By: Hertz van Rental on January 28th 2008 at 12:42:38
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- Second time I've brought this up I know (General Chat) - King, Jan 28, 12:07:13
- It's an interesting proposal (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 12:42:38
- So what you're saying is that... (General Chat) - King, Jan 28, 13:01:25
- This McDonald's stuff? (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 13:03:03
- Hmm (General Chat) - King, Jan 28, 13:13:44
- All that means is that they hope it'll encourage more people to (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 28, 13:16:33
- Hopefully it will encourage more people to not just take up their company's training (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 13:18:33
- All that means is that they hope it'll encourage more people to (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 28, 13:16:33
- Hmm (General Chat) - King, Jan 28, 13:13:44
- This McDonald's stuff? (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 13:03:03
- Additionally (General Chat) - Gunnys mullet, Jan 28, 12:54:08
- *cough* (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 12:59:57
- Hang fucking about. Some who sounds like they actually know what they're talking about. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 28, 12:47:05
- I meant to say 'thass all bawlocks', but it came out wrong. (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 12:50:07
- So what you're saying is that... (General Chat) - King, Jan 28, 13:01:25
- Thin end of the wedge this (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jan 28, 12:36:34
- To progress and get into management (General Chat) - scruffy, Jan 28, 12:22:12
- Indeed (General Chat) - King, Jan 28, 12:37:29
- Because they might apply for another job (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:47:41
- If I had, for five years, I wouldn't admit to it on my CV. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 28, 12:48:57
- haha exactly, but if you had customer service diploma on your cv (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:53:38
- No apostrophe in rotas. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 28, 12:54:48
- I don't proof read innit (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:56:16
- I'm sorry to inform you (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jan 28, 12:58:55
- I don't proof read innit (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:56:16
- No apostrophe in rotas. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 28, 12:54:48
- haha exactly, but if you had customer service diploma on your cv (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:53:38
- If I had, for five years, I wouldn't admit to it on my CV. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 28, 12:48:57
- Well, technically, this country needs more people with good qualifications (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 12:45:23
- And how does this differ from current vocational qualifications? (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jan 28, 12:50:56
- That BBC article is pretty disingenuous about how this will work (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 12:59:20
- GATHER ROUND EVERYONE, INTELLIGENCE ABOVE, COME SEE! (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 13:05:11
- I can completely understand why you have a problem with them though. (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 13:04:04
- It strikes me as being a 'new' type of apprenticeship (General Chat) - camcan, Jan 28, 12:56:16
- If it really takes off will you be able to take a McBSc. a McMSc. and eventually a McPh.D? (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 28, 12:53:04
- It only says level 3 standard, which is nvq level, so no letters (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:57:02
- I was merely having a giggle by putting Mc in front of stuff. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 28, 13:01:26
- Doubtful (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jan 28, 12:56:19
- It only says level 3 standard, which is nvq level, so no letters (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:57:02
- That BBC article is pretty disingenuous about how this will work (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 12:59:20
- Sorry, I mean a greater number of people with good qualifications (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 12:45:57
- I disagree. I think you need more mongs to clean the bogs. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jan 28, 12:47:50
- Those are usually immigrants, the mongs are claiming benefit (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:49:33
- Not very PC there. You mean "Economic Migrants" (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 28, 12:50:48
- There will always be mongs to clean the bogs... (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 12:49:16
- For as long as we have McDonalds. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jan 28, 12:51:44
- Those are usually immigrants, the mongs are claiming benefit (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:49:33
- I disagree. I think you need more mongs to clean the bogs. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jan 28, 12:47:50
- And how does this differ from current vocational qualifications? (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jan 28, 12:50:56
- Because they might apply for another job (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:47:41
- Indeed (General Chat) - King, Jan 28, 12:37:29
- I think it's more to do with management skills rather than academic (General Chat) - bongo33, Jan 28, 12:20:54
- check out the comment by "dan"... (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jan 28, 12:20:04
- Hexcuse me, that's Dan MSc. (Hons) (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 28, 12:23:33
- I know I shouldn't, but I really get annoyed whenever a story about education pops up, and (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jan 28, 12:29:06
- There's always gonna be one smug cunt who comments though (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:21:06
- Hello! (n/m) (General Chat) - King, Jan 28, 12:40:14
- so it seems (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jan 28, 12:22:59
- Hexcuse me, that's Dan MSc. (Hons) (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 28, 12:23:33
- Do you think Oxford and Cambridge will start asking for a minimum of 4 McDonalds stars? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ben, Jan 28, 12:19:17
- The point of them isn't exactly to go to uni though (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:22:05
- I guess if you do the course, get the level, you'll be in a better position (General Chat) - pants, Jan 28, 12:10:58
- Ask PK (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jan 28, 12:10:03
- It's an interesting proposal (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 28, 12:42:38
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