Wenger got his way though, a player that is now only just good enough for the prem

got the trip to the WC amongst 3 other strikers

Sven just lost it at the end, and McClaren is proving why as he just can't handle the pressure

It's a complete farce that venebles is there too, cos the players will just listen to him

Posted By: pants on March 21st 2007 at 10:36:28

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If we lose to Israel this weekend, and don't qualify for the Euros.... (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 09:48:18
- Satdee is going to be a bit uncomfortable for England I think (n/m) (Other Football) - shoddy, Mar 21, 10:31:09
  - Draw I reckon (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 11:01:04
  - More than a bit. I think we'll be lucky to win there (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 10:32:48
- I know it is controversial but.. (Other Football) - mr carra, Mar 21, 10:21:44
  - I agree with that. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 10:26:40
    - Sven was good up to a point (Other Football) - duke of york, Mar 21, 10:46:10
      - maybe he didn't have a Plan B because... (Other Football) - mr carra, Mar 21, 10:55:12
- His time was up, he was easily led by the stars of the team, and (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 10:17:09
  - evidence he was led by the stars? (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Mar 21, 10:18:12
    - Other obvious evidence was caving in to Wenger over Walcott (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 10:26:40
      - that's nonsense. Why would he give a toss about Wenger? (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 10:27:22
        
        Wenger got his way though, a player that is now only just good enough for the prem (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 10:36:28
        
        since Sven had already clearly decided... (Other Football) - mr carra, Mar 21, 10:41:42
        
        Should have taken Defoe instead of Walcott if he wanted pace (n/m) (Other Football) - Brom, Mar 21, 10:47:00
        
        Maybe but that's a choice between... (Other Football) - mr carra, Mar 21, 10:53:30
        
        He's hardly been given a chance for England! (Other Football) - Brom, Mar 21, 11:01:47
        
        If he was really international class, he'd have won a regular place (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 11:03:06
        
        Unfortunate situation at Spurs, Defoe needs to move on (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 11:05:10
        
        Yup. Although I think he'll get another chance at a bigger club than Charlton (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 11:06:40
        
        Maybe, but it wouldn't have made any difference (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 10:50:46
        
        Maybe (n/m) (Other Football) - Brom, Mar 21, 10:51:54
        
        agree absolutely with that. (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 10:44:50
    - You couldn't pick a paper up leading up to the WC without (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 10:24:54
      - but beckham was somehow involved (Other Football) - megson, Mar 21, 10:37:11
        
        Agree, yet a man waiting behind the wings who could see all that from (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 10:54:13
        
        Thats because you have to play your best TEAM (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Mar 21, 10:56:12
        
        The FA must fear that if Lampard gets dropped, Ginsters will rethink their sponsorship (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 10:57:27
        
        lol good points though (Other Football) - megson, Mar 21, 11:08:14
      - Partly true (Other Football) - mr carra, Mar 21, 10:30:00
        
        This is what I mean about the fans and media, any suggestion of Hargreaves (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 10:37:56
        
        Absolutely (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 10:32:18
      - So what? (Other Football) - Charles21, Mar 21, 10:28:57
        
        Beckham has been awful in la liga the last two seasons (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 10:34:11
        
        If he was that awful, Capello wouldn't have wanted to pick him (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 10:37:45
        
        He was getting desperate, squad and injury, one game capello picked a (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 10:48:33
        
        So Beckham is the Real Madrid version of Uncle Peter? (n/m) (Other Football) - Brom, Mar 21, 10:51:33
        
        slowed down, tries harder, gets injured (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 11:03:08
        
        I think he knows that aswell (n/m) (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Mar 21, 11:10:36
        
        No (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Mar 21, 10:53:51
        
        awful for England for longer (Other Football) - mr carra, Mar 21, 10:37:42
        
        I'd like to see Lennon become a guaranteed starter from now (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 10:43:50
        
        Like in the last matches with SWP? (Other Football) - Charles21, Mar 21, 10:40:39
        
        Thats cause SWP is not international class (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Mar 21, 10:46:00
        
        SWP could be given a run in a premiership side (n/m) (Other Football) - Brom, Mar 21, 10:48:33
        
        I doubt it (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Mar 21, 10:52:58
        
        they haven't been great true (Other Football) - mr carra, Mar 21, 10:45:52
- I always thought he was good (Other Football) - Charles21, Mar 21, 10:13:22
  - England can spend the rest of their football history looking back in hindsight over (Other Football) - pants, Mar 21, 10:56:18
    - agree 100% (Other Football) - megson, Mar 21, 11:09:47
- partly (Other Football) - megson, Mar 21, 09:58:40
- Svens record was good (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Mar 21, 09:50:01
- It would just go to show what a truely awful manager McLaren really is (n/m) (Other Football) - Brom, Mar 21, 09:49:42
  - Agreed. Sven was bad but McLaren is awful (n/m) (Other Football) - Bob in France, Mar 21, 09:50:16
    - But maybe Sven wasn't? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Mar 21, 09:51:44
    - Sven wasn't bad (n/m) (Other Football) - Brom, Mar 21, 09:51:15
      - What he said... (Other Football) - Brom, Mar 21, 09:51:40
        
        I was agreeing with you, not he. (Other Football) - Bob in France, Mar 21, 09:53:25

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