Sex Pistols is basically the first LP and the singles from it

After that they became an obscene parody of themselves. They were hellishly political actually (well, Lydon, McClaren and Jamie Reid who did the artwork - the others just wanted to shag lots of birds and have a laugh), but not in the conventional left sense that the Clash were. The Clash came over as somewhat "worthy" (like Billy Bragg), but their hearts were definitely in the right place and they remain one of my favourite bands.

Read Lipstick Traces by Greil Marcus for an understanding of where the McClaren, Reid & Lydon were coming from.

Posted By: BerlinCanary on June 17th 2005 at 01:13:13

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Rock icons quiz (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jun 17, 00:18:15
- 1 is quite clearly Jim Morrison. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 00:22:42
  - Is 2 Bono ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Arganth, Jun 17, 00:32:13
  - It's funny (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jun 17, 00:24:12
    - Maybe I'll come back round to them, who knows. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 00:26:40
      - Don't know a lot about Vicious (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jun 17, 00:30:52
        
        that's about right about Sid (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 17, 00:35:37
        
        What little I know (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jun 17, 00:39:57
        
        Did wonder about no. 2 - harsh assessment (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 17, 00:46:14
        
        Swells is a genius (General Chat) - loisaida, Jun 17, 03:51:40
        
        Not far off the mark though (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jun 17, 01:01:01
        
        Sex Pistols is basically the first LP and the singles from it (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 17, 01:13:13
        
        On the subject of Lydon (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jun 17, 01:23:08
        
        Priceless! (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 17, 01:33:09
        
        The poster is clearly too stupid to sue, it wouldn't be worth it. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 01:32:09
        
        Yeah but (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jun 17, 02:01:00
        
        As far as political punk went, I always thought The Clash were pretty wet. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 01:02:34
        
        The Clash (General Chat) - Ladbroke, Jun 17, 01:40:02
        
        After 'White Riot' it does get fairly wet, really. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 01:44:12
        
        The Clash and Don Letts (General Chat) - Ladbroke, Jun 17, 01:59:12
        
        I wasn't talking about derivation (except with Blur, above) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 02:29:10
        
        I wasn't talking about derivation (except with Blur, above) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 02:19:10
        
        I wasn't talking about derivation (except with Blur, above) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 02:14:10
        
        I wasn't talking about derivation (except with Blur, above) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 02:04:10
        
        can't agree with you there about The Clash I'm afriad... (General Chat) - Deadly Diego, Jun 17, 01:34:11
        
        Ha ha - we'll do it tomorrow. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 01:35:53
        
        Ha ha (General Chat) - Ladbroke, Jun 17, 01:46:25
        
        You're inviting quite a libel suit there, son. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 01:47:49
        
        Without prejudice (General Chat) - Ladbroke, Jun 17, 02:02:13
        
        Thanks, libel action dropped. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 02:13:16
        
        Savage book is called England's Dreaming. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 00:51:16
        
        Have you read Deborah Curtis' book on Ian Curtis? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 00:34:09
        
        Tend not to read music biographies (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jun 17, 00:38:13
        
        I've got Noone Here Gets Out Alive...which is reasonable. (General Chat) - Arganth, Jun 17, 00:45:12
        
        The classic rock book (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 17, 00:54:32
        
        That's the other one I ever read, apart from Johnny Rogan's book on The Smiths. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 17, 00:42:23
        
        Second that about the Curtis book (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 17, 00:56:10
        
        Shatters the Joy Division myth (General Chat) - loisaida, Jun 17, 03:40:50
- 5 - Charlotte Church? (n/m) (General Chat) - Deadly Diego, Jun 17, 00:21:48

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