I didn't say it was bad, or unprecedented; I said that we need to find a shared sense

& that's not going to be "we're all humans", or "the NHS", or "the HRA" - it's got to be something that (whether rightly or not is pretty irrelevant) attaches people to this country specifically. Otherwise, e.g., why pay tax for the benefit of strangers? Why fight for it (many wouldn't, which is quite interesting in itself). Why look after it, or contribute or make an effort to improve it? Why give much of a f**k generally, other than for yourself (see modern britain)? I've been to many countries where their sense of pride in their own places contributes hugely to their success and to the fact that they're basically nice places to be. In my experience, by comparison, britain is oddly unhappy with itself.

Posted By: paulg on April 1st 2026 at 17:49:29

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Ipswich Town news (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 13:34:03
- Yep the left = "cancel culture". Investigate the all the de-banking under the dems (n/m) (Other Football) - Musky, Apr 1, 19:36:55
  - ‍🇺🇳 🖤 🏳️‍🌈 🏳 🏳️‍⚧️ ☮️ 🌎 🤍 ✌️ (n/m) (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 1, 20:45:17
- Absolutely no chance anyone in East Anglia will vote for Reform. (Other Football) - shoddy, Apr 1, 14:21:58
  - 7/10....you did get the usual shlubz to bite.... (Other Football) - usacanary, Apr 1, 16:07:52
    - Same old faeces (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 17:15:49
      - Harsh but true.... (Other Football) - usacanary, Apr 1, 17:33:57
  - It's about diversity Shoddy. Farage is antidiversity and football clubs are pro-diverstity (Other Football) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Apr 1, 15:18:07
    - Pretty much everyone is in favour of diversity (Other Football) - paulg, Apr 1, 16:26:16
      - I think what gets missed here is that (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 17:29:43
        
        I didn't say it was bad, or unprecedented; I said that we need to find a shared sense (Other Football) - paulg, Apr 1, 17:49:29
        
        Why is this needed in its old form? Why can this not evolve? (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 18:14:31
        
        I get where you’re coming from but it’s not straightforward (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 18:46:28
        
        Well no it's not straightforward - I was asking more questions than providing answers, but (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 19:31:41
        
        There was something I didn’t intend (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 19:52:18
      - I don’t think (pretty much) everyone is in favour of it (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 17:21:56
        
        Exactly, and Farage and Reform are very much not in favour of diversity, racial or sexual (n/m) (Other Football) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Apr 1, 18:14:58
      - "the varieties of diversity that are good or bad" (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 17:17:57
      - Agree with the sentiment if not the whole content (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 16:55:59
        
        the issue with britishness (Other Football) - paulg, Apr 1, 17:37:49
        
        You can't take everything away & replace it with nothing (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 18:19:17
      - i said something similar a few weeks back ..... (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 1, 16:48:11
      - Excellent post (Other Football) - Old Git, Apr 1, 16:34:24
  - Really? (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 15:03:55
  - Green don’t you mean (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Breadstick, Apr 1, 14:39:17
    - Lots of Green placards in my village (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 14:41:45
      - FFS , think of all the trees they cut down to make those.... (n/m) (Other Football) - usacanary, Apr 1, 18:20:26
      - The only placards I've seen so far are Green (n/m) (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 14:44:17
        
        Same (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 14:46:15
  - So weird (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 14:24:50
    - He's making the perfectly fair (if broader) point (Other Football) - Old Git, Apr 1, 16:41:21
      - Oh well (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 17:58:58
      - OG!!! (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 16:58:07
  - Shoddy! ffs man. (n/m) (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 14:24:14
  - Oh joy (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 14:22:50
- To be fair Farage is right there. As funny as I found the whole episode (Other Football) - Jim, Apr 1, 13:38:13
  - ‘Other views?’ (Other Football) - Nelsons final flanel, Apr 1, 21:09:07
  - But expressing concern that a club aligns itself with Reform is hard left? (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 15:07:49
  - I think you've moved a little off topic there, Jim. (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 13:46:43
    - Details. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pixelman, Apr 1, 13:50:40
  - Most people are not far right like Farage (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:44:05
    - You don’t know that but (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 14:00:38
      - Nailed it (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 14:17:41
      - Always found it bizarre how important an issue immigration is to voters (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 14:16:54
        
        It’s because there is a powerful propaganda that tells them (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 1, 14:52:58
        
        It's no comfort, but it's not just us (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 15:03:06
        
        Because they are told that’s the problem. There’s no intellectual curiosity. (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 14:32:11
        
        It's an invasion don't you know? (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 14:19:13
      - 🤝 (n/m) (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 14:12:04
  - But it’s ok to shut down anyone with vague concerns about Reform and its impact on (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 13:42:29
    - And my phone strikes again (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 13:42:52

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