I think what gets missed here is that
those things you pinpoint - "common" history, language, moral and legal standards, culture, honour, heroes - every single one of those things evolves constantly and always has.NONE of them are static, but for some reason it is very simple to claim a fixed point in history as the defining point in time for those things, and then sell the idea that any change to that version is bad.
It's not bad. It's necessary. It has always been the case. We've absorbed culture not only from the many actual invasions of the UK over time all the way up to the Glorious Revolution, but from the countless invasions we have executed in other countries, and more innocently from international trade, immigration and emigration and travel, none of which started only after the Second World War. We've also absorbed other cultures far quicker recently due to greater and faster exposure to them on the internet.
I would hazard a guess that the version of the mythical Brit that you had in mind when you were typing about our "common history, language" etc was somewhere post WW2, or if you really are Jacob Rees Mogg then at least no longer ago than the reign of Victoria.
Whichever you see as being that which was common and is no longer, was itself built on thousands of years of influence from other cultures, languages and the rest of it. So why would that now be a bad thing?
I honestly think that your sentiment is a common one in the growing grey population and always has been. What it really is, is that you've got to the age where you don't like change and feel disconnected from the youth.
What I do agree with is the division in the UK being greater than I remember, but I think that is something that's been consciously fed by certain groups, whether they be individuals, organisations or even nations who have learned that the same tactics used for hundreds of years to manipulate the masses are FAR more effective in the internet and social media era. Outrage feeds content which feeds ad revenue, but it also can sway public opinion. And I see Reform as one of those groups. That's why he pulled the Ipswich stunt. That's what I object to with them. I have no issue with people with different opinions, but with the populism movements that intentionally create precisely this division for their own ends.
Posted By: Legacy Fan on April 1st 2026 at 17:29:43
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- Ipswich Town news (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 13:34:03
- Yep the left = "cancel culture". Investigate the all the de-banking under the dems (n/m) (Other Football) - Musky, Apr 1, 19:36:55
- 🇺🇳 🖤 🏳️🌈 🏳 🏳️⚧️ ☮️ 🌎 🤍 ✌️ (n/m) (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 1, 20:45:17
- Absolutely no chance anyone in East Anglia will vote for Reform. (Other Football) - shoddy, Apr 1, 14:21:58
- 7/10....you did get the usual shlubz to bite.... (Other Football) - usacanary, Apr 1, 16:07:52
- Same old faeces (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 17:15:49
- Harsh but true.... (Other Football) - usacanary, Apr 1, 17:33:57
- Same old faeces (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 17:15:49
- It's about diversity Shoddy. Farage is antidiversity and football clubs are pro-diverstity (Other Football) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Apr 1, 15:18:07
- Pretty much everyone is in favour of diversity (Other Football) - paulg, Apr 1, 16:26:16
- I think what gets missed here is that (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 17:29:43
- I didn't say it was bad, or unprecedented; I said that we need to find a shared sense (Other Football) - paulg, Apr 1, 17:49:29
- Why is this needed in its old form? Why can this not evolve? (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 18:14:31
- I get where you’re coming from but it’s not straightforward (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 18:46:28
- Well no it's not straightforward - I was asking more questions than providing answers, but (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 19:31:41
- There was something I didn’t intend (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 19:52:18
- Well no it's not straightforward - I was asking more questions than providing answers, but (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 19:31:41
- I get where you’re coming from but it’s not straightforward (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 18:46:28
- Why is this needed in its old form? Why can this not evolve? (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 18:14:31
- I didn't say it was bad, or unprecedented; I said that we need to find a shared sense (Other Football) - paulg, Apr 1, 17:49:29
- I don’t think (pretty much) everyone is in favour of it (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 17:21:56
- Exactly, and Farage and Reform are very much not in favour of diversity, racial or sexual (n/m) (Other Football) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Apr 1, 18:14:58
- "the varieties of diversity that are good or bad" (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 17:17:57
- Agree with the sentiment if not the whole content (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 16:55:59
- the issue with britishness (Other Football) - paulg, Apr 1, 17:37:49
- You can't take everything away & replace it with nothing (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 18:19:17
- the issue with britishness (Other Football) - paulg, Apr 1, 17:37:49
- i said something similar a few weeks back ..... (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 1, 16:48:11
- Excellent post (Other Football) - Old Git, Apr 1, 16:34:24
- I think what gets missed here is that (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 17:29:43
- Pretty much everyone is in favour of diversity (Other Football) - paulg, Apr 1, 16:26:16
- Really? (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 15:03:55
- Green don’t you mean (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Breadstick, Apr 1, 14:39:17
- Lots of Green placards in my village (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 14:41:45
- FFS , think of all the trees they cut down to make those.... (n/m) (Other Football) - usacanary, Apr 1, 18:20:26
- The only placards I've seen so far are Green (n/m) (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 14:44:17
- Lots of Green placards in my village (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 14:41:45
- So weird (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 14:24:50
- Shoddy! ffs man. (n/m) (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 14:24:14
- Oh joy (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 14:22:50
- 7/10....you did get the usual shlubz to bite.... (Other Football) - usacanary, Apr 1, 16:07:52
- To be fair Farage is right there. As funny as I found the whole episode (Other Football) - Jim, Apr 1, 13:38:13
- ‘Other views?’ (Other Football) - Nelsons final flanel, Apr 1, 21:09:07
- But expressing concern that a club aligns itself with Reform is hard left? (Other Football) - APB, Apr 1, 15:07:49
- I think you've moved a little off topic there, Jim. (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 13:46:43
- Most people are not far right like Farage (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 13:44:05
- You don’t know that but (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 14:00:38
- Nailed it (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 14:17:41
- Always found it bizarre how important an issue immigration is to voters (Other Football) - SCC 28, Apr 1, 14:16:54
- It’s because there is a powerful propaganda that tells them (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 1, 14:52:58
- It's no comfort, but it's not just us (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 15:03:06
- Because they are told that’s the problem. There’s no intellectual curiosity. (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 14:32:11
- It's an invasion don't you know? (Other Football) - jamesward, Apr 1, 14:19:13
- It’s because there is a powerful propaganda that tells them (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 1, 14:52:58
- 🤝 (n/m) (Other Football) - norwaay, Apr 1, 14:12:04
- You don’t know that but (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 14:00:38
- But it’s ok to shut down anyone with vague concerns about Reform and its impact on (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 13:42:29
- And my phone strikes again (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Apr 1, 13:42:52
- Yep the left = "cancel culture". Investigate the all the de-banking under the dems (n/m) (Other Football) - Musky, Apr 1, 19:36:55
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