He's not playing 4d chess

and most people who claim he is are apologists and supporters, who are now embarrassed to admit that (see PP below).

Comments like the NATO forces ones are things he says because he believes them, and he's completely disinhibited so he says them. There's no advantage to him saying that (and this is likely to be one of the very few things he says that he actually has to row back on a bit, when he realises how difficult he's made things for the far-right parties in Europe that he supports).

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on January 23rd 2026 at 15:40:07

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Trump truly is one of the worst humans to exist. His comments of soldiers, navy, airman.. (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jan 23, 10:49:56
- His German immigrant grandfather did the same (General Chat) - footymadman, Jan 23, 21:20:43
- This is what happens when people fall for all this right wing bullshit (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Jan 23, 16:31:59
- Wag the Dog.... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jan 23, 14:03:14
  - Not true (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 23, 14:19:36
  - I don't think Trump cares at all what people in the UK are talking about (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 23, 14:18:17
    - It also misses the point. I don't care if he said it because he's playing some 4d chess (General Chat) - megson, Jan 23, 15:30:51
      - He's not playing 4d chess (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 23, 15:40:07
        
        What i didn't say anything.... having a brother who served i think you know how it went do (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jan 23, 17:07:26
        
        "Went down' (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jan 23, 17:08:47
        
        It's really no surprise who springs to his defence on here (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 23, 15:47:05
        
        Agree, its bizarre anyone would want to try and explain or justify what he said (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Jan 23, 16:24:02
        
        yup, all this (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 23, 16:05:52
        
        (*one or the other*) (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 23, 15:49:45
    - You are the one who doesn't get it. (General Chat) - usacanary, Jan 23, 14:34:26
      - Art of the deal... read it (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jan 23, 14:40:32
        
        Trump didn't write it FWIW, mainly a ghost writer.....Tony Schwartz (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Jan 23, 14:55:46
        
        I never said he did (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jan 23, 15:06:10
- he's a mobster (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jan 23, 13:32:25
- One of CWS's best (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 23, 12:09:29
- His handler won't be happy at that remark (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jan 23, 11:53:01
- Quote from (Tory) MP Simon Hoare this morning (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 23, 11:44:52
- This summaries it well (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 23, 11:41:44
  - my god (General Chat) - Tombs, Jan 23, 11:52:11
    - 🫡 (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 23, 12:27:19
    - So Sorry Tombs. (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Jan 23, 12:26:22
    - Mate. So sorry. (n/m) (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jan 23, 12:08:41
    - 🫡 (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 23, 12:04:50
    - 😢 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 23, 11:59:56
  - *summarises" (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 23, 11:42:21
- Every time he opens his mouth I think "is anyone else hearing this?" (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 23, 11:36:34
  - “Peace is so destructive when you have wars”.. (General Chat) - Tombs, Jan 23, 11:39:45
    - Good grief (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 23, 11:43:47
      - And, it's another day the Epstein files illegally haven't been released. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jan 23, 12:07:35
- It's in a similar vein to "I like people who weren't captured" about John McCain (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 23, 11:28:27
- Just a fucking outrage, that comment (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 23, 11:25:12
- He indeed is an absolute disgrace to the Presidency (and America), but.... (General Chat) - Saucerer, Jan 23, 11:21:57
- Yep x (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Jan 23, 11:21:54
- Just tired of him (General Chat) - colocanary, Jan 23, 11:14:00
- The general response in America to this will be telling I think. (General Chat) - megson, Jan 23, 11:10:54
  - A lot of the electorate just hold their nose (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 23, 11:32:48
    - 💯 (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Jan 23, 21:16:05
    - They don't think he's the best person to improve their lives (General Chat) - mr carra, Jan 23, 12:09:32
      - Yup! Short sighted morons (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Jan 23, 21:16:35
    - Like Nigel Farage (General Chat) - jamesward, Jan 23, 11:35:06
      - Spot fucking on !!! (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Jan 23, 21:16:16
      - 🎯 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jan 23, 11:37:32
- “you get the politicians you deserve.” (General Chat) - Tombs, Jan 23, 11:07:15
- Looks like a canula bruise on his hand (General Chat) - jamesward, Jan 23, 11:01:33
  - *cannula (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jan 23, 11:07:35
  - I love those, especially the ones with chopped pistachios in them (n/m) (General Chat) - Wild Edric, Jan 23, 11:04:12
- We’re living in extraordinary times Dubs (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Jan 23, 10:58:29

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