The second half of that piece is so absurdly one eyed

Because it focuses only on Trump.

Trump is, obviously, a user of inflammatory rhetoric. But he is not alone. Democrats have been relentlessly comparing Republicans to Nazis for years and that has consequences.

Just a very simple Google search brings up the following examples, I’m sure there are lots of others.

During the 2011 health care reform debates, Steve Cohen said the Republican claim of a “government takeover of health care” was “a big lie just like Goebbels. … The Germans said enough about the Jews … and eventually, people believe it. … We heard … government takeover of health care.”

In 2019, Elizabeth Warren and Beto O’Rourke both called Trump a white supremacist. Warren said he had “done everything he can to stir up racial conflict and hatred.”

In 2020 Jim Clyburn compared unwavering Republican support for Donald Trump to how Nazi Germany supported Adolf Hitler. He expressed concern that Republicans were “bowing to Trump” in a way that reminded him of how people allowed Hitler to rise and consolidate power.

At the launch of his 2024 re-election campaign (January 2024), Biden accused Trump of using rhetoric that he said “echoed the same exact language used in Nazi Germany.”

On October 24, 2024, Kamala Harris said she believed Donald Trump “is a fascist.” She was responding to comments from John Kelly, a former Trump chief of staff, who said Trump praised Hitler in some ways and placed loyalty over the Constitution.

In February 2025, in his State of the State / budget speech, JB Pritzker (Governor of Illinois) warned: “It took the Nazis one month, three weeks, two days, eight hours and 40 minutes to dismantle a constitutional republic.” During a state budget address, he explicitly compared some of the Trump administration’s policy approaches to those of Nazi Germany.

In April 2025, Al Gore gave a speech at San Francisco Climate Week during which he compared elements of the Trump administration’s rhetoric/actions to those of early Nazi Germany. He emphasized how authorities try to reshape reality, use propaganda, and manipulate truth — repeating lessons learned from the rise of Nazism. He prefaced by saying he knows “why it is wrong to compare Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich to any other movement … but there are important lessons …”

The point is that inflammatory rhetoric is a problem on BOTH sides

Posted By: Old Git on September 11th 2025 at 09:41:29

Message Thread

This board has turned into a pretty revolting place. (NCFC) - fal5taff, Sep 11, 06:52:28
- It always makes me stare in disbelief when the far left shout fascist and Nazis… (NCFC) - Biggles, Sep 11, 20:53:32
- Twitter has destroyed debate, and normalised awfulness (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Sep 11, 09:31:51
- Did you think Charlie Kirk should have cooled his rhetoric? (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:03:06
  - No wasn’t rhetoric was an opinion which he’s completely entitled to to (NCFC) - Mickdundee, Sep 11, 11:30:59
  - It was nothing even remotely like justification for murder .... (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 08:15:25
    - Seems to me you're playing with the idea that he had it coming ... (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 08:16:10
      - Not at all. (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:32:44
      - What a dreadful response (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 08:19:57
        
        Absolutely. Getting well.past time to turn the Internet off. (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:34:03
  - Having viewpoints held (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 11, 08:10:24
    - You seem to be a big fan (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 08:34:49
      - I watched some of his stuff years ago - been a long while now (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 11, 08:51:37
    - Are the words available? (n/m) (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Sep 11, 08:31:56
    - I would say his literal demonisation of "Democrats" in his speeches. (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:26:38
  - What were his last words? (n/m) (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Sep 11, 08:09:41
    - Apparently: "'Counting or not counting gang violence?" (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:36:14
      - So he was deflecting from answering a question by implying (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Sep 11, 08:38:40
        
        I wouldn't want to agree to your point and be accused of supporting rhetoric (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:41:50
        
        I have read something about him saying (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Sep 11, 08:46:37
        
        It is pretty ironic that's for sure (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 11, 08:54:30
- As I said last night this is the consequence of political culture and dehumanisation (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Sep 11, 08:02:06
  - The second half of that piece is so absurdly one eyed (NCFC) - Old Git, Sep 11, 09:41:29
  - Also Pelosi’s husband (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 08:16:44
- Your sentiment about cooling the rhetoric is spot on. (NCFC) - norwaay, Sep 11, 07:15:25
  - And your generalisations about his generalisations (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 11, 07:27:10
    - Ha! Fair point (NCFC) - norwaay, Sep 11, 07:46:47
      - to make it clearer, (NCFC) - fal5taff, Sep 11, 09:01:01
      - VMT (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Sep 11, 08:52:17
      - I think he's talking about the views on generalisation (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 11, 07:53:10
        
        Though, have you read 'Stasiland'? (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 08:09:39
        
        👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Sep 11, 08:07:05
- totally agree with you regarding nazism (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 11, 07:02:43
- This anti-immigration nonsense is so depressing. (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 06:57:20
  - And what makes you think they're any nicer? (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 07:39:38
    - I've been in hospital a lot over the last five years and I've met so lovely people. (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 07:53:57
      - Im not sure that (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 08:08:03
        
        What have been your interactions with foreigners that has formed your view of them? (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Sep 11, 09:16:07
        
        My wife is (a) foreign and (b) was a refugee (as were others in her family) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 10:09:36
        
        So why did you question Noah-Lahms statement that he'd "rather live with nice people (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Sep 11, 10:13:10
        
        because taken literally, it's obviously true (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 10:18:29
        
        I didn't take it that way but get your point. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Sep 11, 10:21:40
        
        My experience of foreigners has been entirely when I have been in hospital. (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 09:33:28
        
        fair enough; sorry if my reply sounded a bit harsh (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 10:11:32
        
        No problems. (n/m) (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 10:56:18
        
        My question was to paulg (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Sep 11, 09:34:47
        
        Ah, okay. (n/m) (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 09:39:31
      - *some. (n/m) (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 07:54:27
  - And with the blinkers off? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 11, 07:35:26

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