to make it clearer,

and im not taking a position either side here, but almost every cooutry in the world outside the West has strict controls on borders and migration. China, Pakistan, Abu Dhabi, Jordan, India, Chile etc etc. These policies are supported by huge majorities in these countries. It is almost impossible to find a party in these countries advocating for relaxation of these rules. Opinion polling also agrees with it.
So thats what i mean. These countries governments, parties and the people in them support this policy, and they are not Nazis.

Secondly, Nazis are not in favour of respecting national border controls, see map of europe in 1940.

That is why I am saying equating migration and border control with Nazism is inaccurate. But worse than the basic inaccuracy of it is that calling people Nazis dehumanises them. We need to stop it.

Posted By: fal5taff on September 11th 2025 at 09:01:01

Message Thread

This board has turned into a pretty revolting place. (NCFC) - fal5taff, Sep 11, 06:52:28
- It always makes me stare in disbelief when the far left shout fascist and Nazis… (NCFC) - Biggles, Sep 11, 20:53:32
- Twitter has destroyed debate, and normalised awfulness (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Sep 11, 09:31:51
- Did you think Charlie Kirk should have cooled his rhetoric? (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:03:06
  - No wasn’t rhetoric was an opinion which he’s completely entitled to to (NCFC) - Mickdundee, Sep 11, 11:30:59
  - It was nothing even remotely like justification for murder .... (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 08:15:25
    - Seems to me you're playing with the idea that he had it coming ... (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 08:16:10
      - Not at all. (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:32:44
      - What a dreadful response (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 08:19:57
        
        Absolutely. Getting well.past time to turn the Internet off. (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:34:03
  - Having viewpoints held (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 11, 08:10:24
    - You seem to be a big fan (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 08:34:49
      - I watched some of his stuff years ago - been a long while now (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 11, 08:51:37
    - Are the words available? (n/m) (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Sep 11, 08:31:56
    - I would say his literal demonisation of "Democrats" in his speeches. (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:26:38
  - What were his last words? (n/m) (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Sep 11, 08:09:41
    - Apparently: "'Counting or not counting gang violence?" (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:36:14
      - So he was deflecting from answering a question by implying (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Sep 11, 08:38:40
        
        I wouldn't want to agree to your point and be accused of supporting rhetoric (n/m) (NCFC) - trafford_canary, Sep 11, 08:41:50
        
        I have read something about him saying (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Sep 11, 08:46:37
        
        It is pretty ironic that's for sure (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 11, 08:54:30
- As I said last night this is the consequence of political culture and dehumanisation (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Sep 11, 08:02:06
  - The second half of that piece is so absurdly one eyed (NCFC) - Old Git, Sep 11, 09:41:29
  - Also Pelosi’s husband (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 08:16:44
- Your sentiment about cooling the rhetoric is spot on. (NCFC) - norwaay, Sep 11, 07:15:25
  - And your generalisations about his generalisations (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 11, 07:27:10
    - Ha! Fair point (NCFC) - norwaay, Sep 11, 07:46:47
      - to make it clearer, (NCFC) - fal5taff, Sep 11, 09:01:01
      - VMT (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Sep 11, 08:52:17
      - I think he's talking about the views on generalisation (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 11, 07:53:10
        
        Though, have you read 'Stasiland'? (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 08:09:39
        
        👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Sep 11, 08:07:05
- totally agree with you regarding nazism (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 11, 07:02:43
- This anti-immigration nonsense is so depressing. (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 06:57:20
  - And what makes you think they're any nicer? (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 07:39:38
    - I've been in hospital a lot over the last five years and I've met so lovely people. (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 07:53:57
      - Im not sure that (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 08:08:03
        
        What have been your interactions with foreigners that has formed your view of them? (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Sep 11, 09:16:07
        
        My wife is (a) foreign and (b) was a refugee (as were others in her family) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 10:09:36
        
        So why did you question Noah-Lahms statement that he'd "rather live with nice people (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Sep 11, 10:13:10
        
        because taken literally, it's obviously true (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 10:18:29
        
        I didn't take it that way but get your point. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Sep 11, 10:21:40
        
        My experience of foreigners has been entirely when I have been in hospital. (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 09:33:28
        
        fair enough; sorry if my reply sounded a bit harsh (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Sep 11, 10:11:32
        
        No problems. (n/m) (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 10:56:18
        
        My question was to paulg (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Sep 11, 09:34:47
        
        Ah, okay. (n/m) (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 09:39:31
      - *some. (n/m) (NCFC) - Noah_Lahms, Sep 11, 07:54:27
  - And with the blinkers off? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Sep 11, 07:35:26

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