Well yes, but if the test is whether something is deliberate or not

Then it is as a matter of fact a test of what they intended to do.

FWIW, I think this was a foul. Like tripping someone accidentally, he still did it whether he meant to or not

Posted By: SimonOTBC on August 30th 2025 at 14:15:43

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Another VAR shocker in favour of “Big Club” (n/m) (Other Football) - Gazzaman, Aug 30, 12:57:10
- Not sure of the rules but he has to put his foot down somewhere. (Other Football) - Men without hats, Aug 30, 14:26:40
  - Intention doesn’t matter (n/m) (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Aug 30, 14:33:35
  - He wasn’t sent off (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 14:27:14
- ‘Careless tackle’ (Other Football) - Nelsons final flanel, Aug 30, 13:29:44
- That’s awful what the hell are they doing (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, Aug 30, 13:02:37
  - What happened (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 13:11:00
    - Fulham goal disallowed (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, Aug 30, 13:11:50
      - The foul (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 13:13:20
        
        in the build up? (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 13:13:38
        
        Well it isn't a foul (Other Football) - mr carra, Aug 30, 13:18:17
        
        What?! (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 13:23:57
        
        So treading on toes/ feet is always a foul? (Other Football) - Nelsons final flanel, Aug 30, 13:35:16
        
        only if you are a "big club" and "big club" is defined by the var officials (Other Football) - Tombs, Aug 30, 13:41:16
        
        In this case clearly (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 13:40:50
        
        That’s very difficult to prove isn’t it? X (n/m) (Other Football) - Nelsons final flanel, Aug 30, 13:49:05
        
        Not really (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 13:51:31
        
        He clearly didn’t do it deliberately (n/m) (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Aug 30, 13:58:41
        
        We’ve been here before (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 14:11:36
        
        The problem is rules that rely on intent (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Aug 30, 14:12:49
        
        I think intent is used far too much by people (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 14:14:24
        
        Well yes, but if the test is whether something is deliberate or not (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Aug 30, 14:15:43
        
        Deliberately fouling usually totally irrelevant though (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 14:23:05
        
        Don’t think intentional features in the wording of it being a foul (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Aug 30, 14:24:10
        
        Exactly 👍 (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 14:28:05
        
        *intention (n/m) (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Aug 30, 14:24:21
        
        He’s tried to do a pirouette and missed the ball with his left foot (n/m) (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Aug 30, 14:01:28
        
        It was obviously accidental (n/m) (Other Football) - paulg, Aug 30, 14:09:50
        
        It wasn’t premeditated no (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 14:12:47
        
        What actually is the required mental element (if there is one)? (n/m) (Other Football) - paulg, Aug 30, 14:17:38
        
        Being in control of your movement? (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 14:26:32
        
        When do you not deliberately stand somewhere? (n/m) (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Aug 30, 14:14:34
        
        Well quite (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 14:19:02
        
        Lolf (n/m) (Other Football) - Jumbo1, Aug 30, 13:17:48
- Will check it shortly and make my decision (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 13:01:39
  - They should make Mikey VARmeister General (Other Football) - usacanary, Aug 30, 14:00:03
    - That goes without saying (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 14:15:13
- It's just blatantly bent now (Other Football) - mr carra, Aug 30, 12:59:53
  - No , that one was a foul two ways (Other Football) - Disco, Aug 30, 13:06:39
    - Oh, I agree it was an offence (Other Football) - mr carra, Aug 30, 13:14:15
      - Because it wasn’t something var could look at before (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 13:17:17
        
        Well that can't be true surely? (Other Football) - mr carra, Aug 30, 13:25:34
        
        Was restart offences (Other Football) - SCC 28, Aug 30, 13:38:33
- Terrible decision. VAR doesn't help itself (Other Football) - Disco, Aug 30, 12:59:36
  - VAR tends to enhance the impression of contact. (Other Football) - MORDENCANARY, Aug 30, 14:52:27
- Never a foul in million years (n/m) (Other Football) - Klobo04, Aug 30, 12:59:30
- Absolutely crackers. We have replaced onfield errors with off field errors that take five (Other Football) - Pixelman, Aug 30, 12:58:47

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