Table Of Tilt incoming..... Tilt your Tits off...Long post.
If all teams win at their seasonal form for the first 40 games we get the following points totals (I'm ignoring top 4)
5 Blackburn 71.94
6 Millwall 71.3
7 Norwich 69
8 Preston 67.85
9 Coventry 66.7
10 West Brom 66.05
So lets have some fun and look at Smiths form vs Wagner
Smith = 1.38 PPG
Wagner 1.71 PPG
Does that make much difference if we plug into the table of tilt?
5 Blackburn 71.94
6 Millwall 71.3
7 Norwich 70.29
8 Preston 67.85
9 Coventry 66.7
10 West Brom 66.05
Clearly no because we have so few games left its effect is minimal. Over a whole season 1.71 PPG is 78.66 points which has never failed to make the playoffs.
Some interesting factors in the run in to the playoffs.
Its possible both Swansea and West Brom will have little to play for when we play them.
2nd interesting factor is we do have a good GD compared to Blackburn and Millwall.
With things being so close in the teams 4th to 10th this may be hugely important with realistically 2 spots up for grabs.
The negatives are it cannot be stressed how much of an edge Blackburn and Millwall have over us.
Both have essentially a 2 point advantage with just 18 points to play for.
That is pretty massive even if it doesn't sound like much.
Now we look at the strength of schedule.
Clearly Rotherham at home is worth more points than Boro away. Even so most teams will have tough games in the run in and at least we don't have to play the top 2 which would be the most difficult.
TLDR.... what will it take to make the playoffs, the GD is a huge factor if we don't get beaten
78 points 6W 0D 0L ~100%
76 points 5W 1D 0L ~100%
75 points 5W 0D 1L ~99%
74 points 4W 2D 0L ~99%
73 points 4W 1D 1L ~74%
72 points 4W 0D 2L ~52%
72 points 3W 3D 0L ~69%
71 points 3W 2D 1L ~46%
70 points 3W 1D 2L ~13%
70 points 2W 4D 0L ~27%
69 points 3W 0D 3L ~4%
69 points 2W 3D 1L ~7%
68 points 2W 2D 2L ~0%
68 points 1W 5D 0L ~1%
67 points 2W 1D 3L ~0%
67 points 1W 4D 1L ~0%
66 points 2W 0D 4L ~0%
66 points 1W 3D 2L ~0%
I did a Monte Carlo simulation based on the last 6 games based on form under Wagner (small samples to be totally fair and transparent) and the strength of opposition.
I get to around 71.3 points which gives us around a 50% chance of making the playoffs.
Interestingly looking at the betting markets we are around 11/10 to make the playoffs which is obviously pretty close to this.
Posted By: usacanary on April 8th 2023 at 19:12:57
Message Thread
- Table Of Tilt incoming..... Tilt your Tits off...Long post. (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:12:57
- I went on a tilting table once (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Apr 8, 22:05:43
- Millwall got piss easy fixtures. Blackburn last two games Luton and Millwall. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 8, 21:37:00
- Millwall don’t seem in great form (NCFC) - jamesward, Apr 8, 21:56:49
- Would love their fixtures (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 22:12:45
- Millwall don’t seem in great form (NCFC) - jamesward, Apr 8, 21:56:49
- So, cutting a long story short, maybe we make it, maybe we don’t? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 8, 20:54:20
- Seems to be a more accurate assessment than the Monte Carlo analysis... (NCFC) - Timmy_Goat, Apr 8, 21:59:55
- I had a pint and pondered it for a bit (NCFC) - paulg, Apr 8, 19:51:41
- We might have the best two defenders available. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:57:54
- If that's your answer (NCFC) - paulg, Apr 8, 22:23:53
- Mine does (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 19:53:27
- We might have the best two defenders available. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:57:54
- Way too much time on your hands (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Apr 8, 19:38:20
- Thats the downside to being Succesful and Filthy Rich..... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 20:18:41
- I have us 33% for the playoffs (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 19:37:06
- More made up idiotic shit by Mikey. Ignores all the math.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:56:09
- You said Trump has no chance of winning (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 20:01:32
- Good grief is the best you can do. (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 20:09:42
- You said he has no chance because you’re annoyed by him? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 20:12:45
- Are you really asking why Donald Trump tilts me off..... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 20:22:53
- Pep is a Fraud, Haaland is a tap in merchant (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 8, 21:28:42
- The Haaland quote is Charles I think (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 21:43:50
- You and him have had a clear rivalry for a long time (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 8, 21:46:39
- How did I mock it exactly? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 21:55:31
- You 2 literally never agree (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 8, 22:00:15
- Didn’t we agree earlier about Burnley? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 22:04:28
- I don't know (n/m) (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 8, 22:07:01
- Didn’t we agree earlier about Burnley? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 22:04:28
- You 2 literally never agree (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 8, 22:00:15
- How did I mock it exactly? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 21:55:31
- You and him have had a clear rivalry for a long time (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 8, 21:46:39
- The Haaland quote is Charles I think (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 21:43:50
- Incredible tilt level this (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 20:31:12
- Pep is a Fraud, Haaland is a tap in merchant (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Apr 8, 21:28:42
- Are you really asking why Donald Trump tilts me off..... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 20:22:53
- You said he has no chance because you’re annoyed by him? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 20:12:45
- Good grief is the best you can do. (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 20:09:42
- You said Trump has no chance of winning (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 20:01:32
- More made up idiotic shit by Mikey. Ignores all the math.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:56:09
- Some suprising discoveries. (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:23:12
- The major complications are..... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:44:35
- 2 draws is fine if Blackburn don’t win any of next 2 (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 19:50:00
- and what the probability of Blackburn not winning the next two..... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 20:00:32
- Hull game isn’t priced up yet (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 20:10:03
- Why do you need that? (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 20:17:09
- You seem really really upset (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 20:29:26
- Why do you need that? (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 20:17:09
- Hull game isn’t priced up yet (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 20:10:03
- and what the probability of Blackburn not winning the next two..... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 20:00:32
- 2 draws is fine if Blackburn don’t win any of next 2 (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 19:50:00
- The major complications are..... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:44:35
- 50% chance. So we might do, but equally we might not. Marvellous stuff. (n/m) (NCFC) - tudders, Apr 8, 19:21:36
- Thanks for another lengthy “the bookies are right” post. (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Apr 8, 19:18:30
- Im not sure if you understand how markets work. (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:24:41
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