He’s pandering to popular opinion. Unions can help with employee protection but while they
are currently pulling everyone out on strike for pay rises, many unions, certainly including those of the emergency services, are the very reason for the lack of pay rises over the last five or more years. They have held out for unrealistic deals and thereby lost what was already on the table.
The problem with some unions is that the people who get involved in them at a decision making level are precisely the people you don’t want in those positions. Too often they are people who don’t have responsibility or power at their actual work because they don’t have the skills. Many people who do have those skills don’t want to volunteer for more of it.
A sweeping generalisation of course, but the above is certainly true in some cases.
There obviously needs to be some sort of employee protective authority, but I think some reform is needed because as it currently stands workers (including those not in the unions) are negatively affected by unions as often as their management. And the union leaders don’t behave any differently to the management of the employees anyway.
Posted By: Legacy Fan on December 22nd 2022 at 19:33:16
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- You might not like him but do you agree with most of what he says? (General Chat) - jimbo, Dec 22, 17:43:27
- Absolutely. (n/m) (General Chat) - Azteca, Dec 22, 19:40:57
- He’s pandering to popular opinion. Unions can help with employee protection but while they (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 22, 19:33:16
- Imagine how shit working conditions would be without unions (General Chat) - Azteca, Dec 22, 19:46:58
- I agree re conditions. But I think they can do better regarding raise negotiations. (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 23, 00:12:43
- Also in the U.K. many negotiates rights end up being box ticks (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 23, 00:13:02
- I agree re conditions. But I think they can do better regarding raise negotiations. (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Dec 23, 00:12:43
- Imagine how shit working conditions would be without unions (General Chat) - Azteca, Dec 22, 19:46:58
- 100% (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Dec 22, 18:23:13
- True leadership (n/m) (General Chat) - ChampsChamps2023, Dec 22, 18:59:23
- He's just reciting the normal tropes. The real problem that unions face is not protecting (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Dec 22, 18:21:58
- PARKLIFE! (n/m) (General Chat) - BigGrantHolt, Dec 22, 19:02:45
- Don’t agree with the strikes but don’t dislike him (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Dec 22, 17:58:02
- The fact that we've received no more than 50% of our usual (General Chat) - Chicken, Dec 22, 19:26:37
- Was chatting to our postie about this (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 22, 21:21:28
- Interestingly other postal services in other countries (General Chat) - littletinyphil, Dec 22, 21:55:03
- Was chatting to our postie about this (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 22, 21:21:28
- They already are axing workers aren't they? (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Dec 22, 18:40:12
- Yes mainly natural wastage I believe (retirements and leavers) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Dec 22, 18:44:10
- Wow your friends at Royal Mail must have left a long time ago (General Chat) - littletinyphil, Dec 22, 21:17:54
- The good news is you won’t have that job soon (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Dec 22, 22:00:07
- probably not but i’ll enjoy fucking things up for a while (n/m) (General Chat) - littletinyphil, Dec 22, 22:01:24
- Ffs, you and your facts (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 21:31:57
- lol, here’s another fact Ceo of Royal Mail is Simon Thompson (General Chat) - littletinyphil, Dec 22, 21:38:11
- The good news is you won’t have that job soon (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Dec 22, 22:00:07
- The ones the want to axe are Network Rail maintainable staff, (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 18:58:38
- Wow your friends at Royal Mail must have left a long time ago (General Chat) - littletinyphil, Dec 22, 21:17:54
- Yes mainly natural wastage I believe (retirements and leavers) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Dec 22, 18:44:10
- The fact that we've received no more than 50% of our usual (General Chat) - Chicken, Dec 22, 19:26:37
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