so how do you view a manager that takes recruits

and then discards them with only a very cursory look?

Would a good 'manager', for example, have got Marcel Franke over his initial hump and given him a chance to justify the £2m investment in his services?

Posted By: Henclrikus on May 9th 2022 at 12:19:21

Message Thread

If you can't possibly expect Smith to have done better because it's not his squad (NCFC) - jamesward, May 9, 09:50:00
- Farke was done for either way, unfortunately (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, May 9, 11:55:58
  - I would hope in the end of season debrief, he and the recruitment team, admit as much! (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, May 9, 12:52:27
    - I think he might admit it didn’t work out (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, May 9, 13:05:21
      - I agree, but in the grand scheme of things, what he tells the fans is unimportant (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, May 9, 13:13:26
- He should be at least expected to motivate them and have belief, regardless. (n/m) (NCFC) - ChengdeCanary, May 9, 11:19:03
- This is my constant refrain (NCFC) - camcan, May 9, 10:59:53
  - so how do you view a manager that takes recruits (NCFC) - Henclrikus, May 9, 12:19:21
  - but you can't give a mechanic a Porsche and expect him to be competitive in F1 (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, May 9, 11:22:31
    - But for me, a Porsche is still quite and expensive car, so while I can forgive it for not (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, May 9, 12:47:24
      - That's kind of my point...we are a good team, maybe too good for the championship (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, May 9, 13:06:04
    - so we go back full circle (NCFC) - camcan, May 9, 11:49:17
      - Which is exactly what we were trying to move away from, wasn’t it? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, May 9, 11:58:32
        
        which was the bigest and most justifiable fear when Smith got the gig (NCFC) - mr chimp, May 9, 12:53:20
        
        Plans shouldn't be set in stone though... (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, May 9, 13:20:50
        
        yup (NCFC) - CWC, May 9, 12:02:36
        
        I think I can summarise this (NCFC) - camcan, May 9, 12:08:29
        
        and said he was doing loads of things that he basically wasn't doing (NCFC) - paulg, May 9, 12:16:19
        
        all built on an underlying assumption (NCFC) - CWC, May 9, 12:19:42
        
        If by system you mean Farkeball, then it clearly wasn't working in the PL (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, May 9, 12:43:37
        
        But there seems to have been a failure (NCFC) - paulg, May 9, 13:51:18
        
        Yeah agreed…. (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, May 9, 12:36:22
        
        Second (NCFC) - Old Git, May 9, 12:29:14
        
        fair (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, May 9, 12:40:01
- If we want to transition to a more Prem friendly squad (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, May 9, 10:58:27
- Was more in hope than expectation (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 9, 10:05:58
  - Not sure we look way worse off going into next season …. (NCFC) - loz, May 9, 10:10:53
    - But we wanted to stay up (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 9, 10:13:12
      - Yep but that was about Webber saving face over his recruitment …. (NCFC) - loz, May 9, 10:16:46
- August 2019 (NCFC) - Duck, May 9, 09:59:51
  - Remember that game when Halle took out Zimbo (NCFC) - Old Splat, May 9, 10:45:16
  - Yes, it was stark that day and equally so yesterday (NCFC) - jamesward, May 9, 10:02:27
    - This is the most irritating thing (NCFC) - Old Git, May 9, 10:30:44
      - Not even *that* fast (NCFC) - jamesward, May 9, 10:40:42
      - Well not Burnley tbf (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 9, 10:33:15
        
        Burnley as a concept (NCFC) - Old Git, May 9, 10:34:28
- My point of view is (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, May 9, 09:58:20
  - Don't disagree (NCFC) - jamesward, May 9, 10:01:32
    - But we don't have the players to do it...we have a squad designed to play a specific way (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, May 9, 11:04:44
      - Normann 'our most physical player' is a pretty much as damning as you can get (NCFC) - Brom, May 9, 16:10:18
  - Yep and he’s not trying to get the best out of the young talent we did sign… (NCFC) - loz, May 9, 10:00:06
    - Tzolis isn't very good (NCFC) - LincolnshireCanary, May 9, 10:53:17
      - See I disagree even in the Newcastle away game when he got 45… (NCFC) - loz, May 9, 10:59:56
    - I', not sure playing in this team at the moment will help anyone's development (NCFC) - mr carra, May 9, 10:26:10
      - Yep they won’t gain any confidence playing against decent oppo (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 9, 10:31:28
        
        how will they get to learn Smith's championship-winning style though? (NCFC) - CWC, May 9, 10:39:17
        
        This, this and thrice this (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, May 9, 11:01:49
        
        Not sure they’ll learn much barely getting a kick (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 9, 10:41:37
        
        Don't fed the troll (n/m) (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, May 9, 10:44:34
        
        if he thinks our team for next year is *that* bad we may as well give up (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, May 9, 10:44:20
        
        Only at competing against prem players (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 9, 10:49:17
        
        Made me laugh when Smith said post match that he brought (NCFC) - jamesward, May 9, 10:48:07
        
        Could argue he is giving youth a chance (NCFC) - jamesward, May 9, 10:41:29
        
        Might be some appearance fees playing a part with Tzolis. (NCFC) - lurd, May 9, 11:15:14
        
        But we were terrible under farke at start of season yet … (NCFC) - loz, May 9, 10:36:16
        
        Yeah might be worth it with (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 9, 10:44:28

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