If he did, and it looks like he probably did based on the on car view…..
Is there a precedent for what the punishment is?
I wouldn’t be happy with the race result being overturned on that basis.
It seems pretty clear though that the race should never have restarted.
Posted By: SimonOTBC on December 12th 2021 at 16:34:07
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- Did Max pass Lewis behind the safety car when Lewis was backing him up? I think it was (Other Sports) - NxNW, Dec 12, 15:56:07
- If he did, and it looks like he probably did based on the on car view….. (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:34:07
- One of Mercedes complaints I believe (n/m) (Other Sports) - loz, Dec 12, 15:58:44
- There’s no way they will intervene in the result (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:11:08
- The regulation seems clear to me. They misapplied it. (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 16:31:14
- Nope, 48.13 overrules it (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 12, 16:45:49
- The only power to let untapped cars back through is 48.12 (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 17:00:50
- What stops it? (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 12, 17:10:25
- The only argument I can see…. (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 17:15:42
- I don’t think 48.12 is prescriptive though (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 12, 18:21:11
- If he wanted the race to play out then he should have red flagged … (Other Sports) - loz, Dec 12, 18:31:19
- Well I won’t disagree it was a barmy set of decisions (n/m) (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 12, 18:35:48
- If he wanted the race to play out then he should have red flagged … (Other Sports) - loz, Dec 12, 18:31:19
- Sorry for typos! (n/m) (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 17:17:09
- Don’t think it’s redundant in that it then applies in the “following lap” (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 17:35:38
- Yes, that’s fair, but the timing of when it comes in is set in 48.12 (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 17:39:22
- I wonder if they could just be joint champions somehow? (n/m) (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 18:02:26
- Yes, that’s fair, but the timing of when it comes in is set in 48.12 (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 17:39:22
- Don’t think it’s redundant in that it then applies in the “following lap” (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 17:35:38
- I don’t think 48.12 is prescriptive though (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 12, 18:21:11
- No it says “will be required to pass the leader” later in the Reg (n/m) (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 17:11:41
- Where? I couldn’t see anything about It other than in 48 (n/m) (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 12, 17:54:44
- The only argument I can see…. (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 17:15:42
- What stops it? (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 12, 17:10:25
- Don’t agree. 48.12 applies is lapped cars called through (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 16:51:47
- Nothing in the drafting that stops it (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 12, 17:01:15
- Maybe but you have to apply the two together. 48.13 applies in (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 17:15:13
- Yes, either 48.12 is being applied, or it isn’t (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 17:22:36
- 48.12 is the only section that gives the race director the power to allow cars to unlap (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 17:07:21
- Maybe but you have to apply the two together. 48.13 applies in (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 17:15:13
- Nothing in the drafting that stops it (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 12, 17:01:15
- The only power to let untapped cars back through is 48.12 (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 17:00:50
- Yep. (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:33:01
- Nope, 48.13 overrules it (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 12, 16:45:49
- Adds a further bit of drama though doesn't it. (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 12, 16:16:48
- Yep! I’m going to boycott F1 (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:27:01
- I think there are plenty (sufficient) F1 fans that care about the integrity of the sport (n/m) (Other Sports) - NxNW, Dec 12, 16:19:05
- If the owners are all about ratings and drama (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:20:35
- Because the race was over once they ordered the lapped cars through (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 16:38:55
- It is, but I’ll bet you £10 to a charity of your choosing that they will! (n/m) (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:41:47
- I think you are right to be honest (n/m) (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 16:52:31
- I wonder though if Hamilton might intervene and say he doesn’t want it overturned (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 16:59:39
- I dunno - he was speaking as someone that wouldn’t have known the detail of the rules (n/m) (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 17:01:52
- I wonder though if Hamilton might intervene and say he doesn’t want it overturned (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 16:59:39
- I think you are right to be honest (n/m) (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 16:52:31
- It is, but I’ll bet you £10 to a charity of your choosing that they will! (n/m) (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:41:47
- Yep this. (Other Sports) - Under soil heating, Dec 12, 16:28:08
- Yes, sad because no additional drama was required (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:29:47
- Though clearly Hamilton should have been made to give the place back on lap 1 (Other Sports) - earlydoors, Dec 12, 16:40:22
- Yes, sad because no additional drama was required (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:29:47
- Because the race was over once they ordered the lapped cars through (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 16:38:55
- If the owners are all about ratings and drama (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:20:35
- The regulation seems clear to me. They misapplied it. (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 12, 16:31:14
- There’s no way they will intervene in the result (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 12, 16:11:08
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