This was always going to happen because it was pretty obvious
That what we were seeing yesterday was a one-sided and slightly exagerated acount.
Thats not to say some or a lot of it wasn't true. I believe him when he says he was subjected to racist abuse/racism during his time at yorkshire which was completely unacceptable. Thats what the report found too.
Clearly that dressing room (and many others I suspect in sport) had a culture of young men abusing each other (probably mostly in the name of banter) which is his fundamental point and is correct. It appears to have got so bad that it was just seen as normal. That is what needs to change as its an unhealthy culture where people can be made to feel uncomfortable.
i also believe there is some truth in the reports he wasn't always easy to handle and these tweets come as no surprise. I suspect there will be more revalations about his behaviour when younger and this all coming out now in the national media isn't going to help his mental state.
I also think he is (possiby rightly) bitter at being released in cruel circumstances and is out for revenge.
I agree a line needs to be drawn. The witch hunt against individuals (some of whom have had no right of reply) who may have at some point said something vaguely racist or some sort of generalisation like Lloyd did, whether as a joke or in a moment of clumsiness (including Rafiq if this is the only instance) is only going to destroy people and careers. Go after the people who it emerges from these stories have been really, genuinely and maliciously racist by all means but we really need to stop microanalysing every word/tweet/email to find something offensive someone said from the last decade and then using it to cancel people.
I know some will scoff at this but I genuinely believe there is not a single poster on here who has not at some point said or typed something that could be construed as racist or offensive to another race, made a joke based on stereotyping etc. I also bet we already think twice about what we say or post now and will do so even more as a result of this episode which ultimately will be the good to come out of it.
Posted By: Jim on November 18th 2021 at 17:29:32
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- So Azeem Rafiq now apologises for past tweets (Other Sports) - DiscoDale, Nov 18, 16:54:12
- But you drew the line then - isn't that when it stopped? (n/m) (Other Sports) - norwaay, Nov 18, 17:29:42
- This was always going to happen because it was pretty obvious (Other Sports) - Jim, Nov 18, 17:29:32
- Beautifully put. (n/m) (Other Sports) - DiscoDale, Nov 18, 17:51:44
- Not sure why his own unacceptable comments (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Nov 18, 17:32:48
- You know the answer. (Other Sports) - norwaay, Nov 18, 17:36:14
- I didn't say it did. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Jim, Nov 18, 17:43:22
- So why make the allegation that his account was exaggerated? (Other Sports) - norwaay, Nov 18, 17:48:33
- Oh do lay off it you two FFS (Other Sports) - Old Git, Nov 18, 19:07:44
- I think you'll find they're correct and brilliant 👍 (n/m) (Other Sports) - Captain Bligh, Nov 18, 20:16:24
- lol - lay off what? (n/m) (Other Sports) - norwaay, Nov 18, 19:19:01
- Perhaps fat shaming our assistant manager (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Nov 18, 19:21:53
- Oh do lay off it you two FFS (Other Sports) - Old Git, Nov 18, 19:07:44
- So you’ve deduced that it was definitely exaggerated (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Nov 18, 17:48:25
- Yes, pretty much, can't say definitely but (Other Sports) - Jim, Nov 18, 18:09:26
- So because of how common it was (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Nov 18, 18:13:08
- You what? (Other Sports) - Jim, Nov 18, 18:25:09
- You say responding to something he said with racism (Other Sports) - jamesward, Nov 18, 18:35:56
- No idea why you’re confused (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Nov 18, 18:28:40
- You what? (Other Sports) - Jim, Nov 18, 18:25:09
- So because of how common it was (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Nov 18, 18:13:08
- Yes, pretty much, can't say definitely but (Other Sports) - Jim, Nov 18, 18:09:26
- Erm (Other Sports) - jamesward, Nov 18, 17:47:42
- So why make the allegation that his account was exaggerated? (Other Sports) - norwaay, Nov 18, 17:48:33
- I didn't say it did. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Jim, Nov 18, 17:43:22
- You know the answer. (Other Sports) - norwaay, Nov 18, 17:36:14
- Also a photo of him doing the rounds with a T-shirt on with racist words on (n/m) (Other Sports) - Tony Martin, Nov 18, 17:05:15
- 2 or 3 on Twitter that I can see (n/m) (Other Sports) - DiscoDale, Nov 18, 17:52:36
- Where’s that? Can’t see anything (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Nov 18, 17:49:18
- As they say, those who live in glass houses, (Other Sports) - Augustus Pablo, Nov 18, 16:57:48
- That what we were seeing yesterday was a one-sided and slightly exagerated acount. (Other Sports) - Munich93, Nov 18, 18:39:04
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