But Todd did get an advantage

Whereas the imaginary player standing skill watching his teammate dribble into the box didn't.

Why do the rules say something explicit about a touch by an opposing player this "A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent." and nothing about a touch by your team mate.

If the rule was as simple as a touch by a teammate who was onside brings you onside then surely it would say that?

Posted By: Kangol Canary on December 30th 2020 at 10:27:46

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Having read the examples Worthing refers to below.... (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 09:42:04
- Whoa. Spicy on here this morning (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 30, 11:22:39
  - I'm still angry about their pen (NCFC) - paulg, Dec 30, 12:23:39
    - Yep (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 30, 12:28:28
      - and if that's a pen - isn't it a free kick everywhere else? (NCFC) - paulg, Dec 30, 12:32:46
        
        I think I struggle with the massive over-optimism (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Dec 30, 12:59:06
- he was offside (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 30, 09:43:51
  - There is an actual diagram in the FA handbook showing that precise scenario which says it’ (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 30, 10:12:16
    - But it's not the precise scenario (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Dec 30, 10:14:32
      - It only matters where Todd is when Teemu makes the pass (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 10:15:59
        
        I'm not sure (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Dec 30, 10:25:45
        
        the point is that Todd isn’t in an offside position when he receives the ball (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 10:55:05
        
        None of it matters it is an irreversible refereeing decision (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 30, 10:24:48
        
        you're quite right (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 30, 10:38:06
        
        Like anyone on here has ever had their opinion changed by debate (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 30, 10:42:54
        
        good point (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 30, 10:48:18
        
        Quite frustrating that people don't know the laws (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 30, 10:26:56
        
        I have enough shite in my noggin with keeping abreast of laws of sports I watch occasionly (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 30, 10:34:52
        
        I'm saving the jet-washing until spring (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 30, 10:40:15
        
        Got to be done ready for the massive new year party we are hosting (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 30, 10:46:47
        
        go for it .. we have the Oxford Vaccine (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 30, 10:49:33
        
        Aha! So a new printer was purchased, whatdyagofor? (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Dec 30, 10:38:54
        
        Canon pixma 60 quids ono from currys 5 quid delivery (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 30, 10:45:43
  - He wasn't. Very obviously (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 30, 10:04:10
  - I'm sure I've seen countless similar situations (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Dec 30, 10:03:10
  - According to the rules posted earlier he isn't (NCFC) - mr carra, Dec 30, 09:49:34
  - 100% you are wrong (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 09:48:44
    - It's not exactly what happened. (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Dec 30, 10:08:12
      - That’s not relevant (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 10:11:17
        
        Because it’s examples of what “gaining an advantage” per the rules means (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 10:17:37
        
        But Todd did get an advantage (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Dec 30, 10:27:46
        
        He didn’t - that’s the point of the example (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 10:55:49
        
        The touch referred to is the FIRST touch, not the Pukki pass (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 30, 10:30:30
        
        You might be right but I can't remember any (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Dec 30, 10:39:06
        
        That’s what the guidance examples are for (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 10:47:06
        
        Written by idiots (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 30, 10:41:55
        
        Then why is the diagram in the rules called "gaining advantage"? (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Dec 30, 10:15:25
        
        But it says a deliberate touch by an opposition player brings him back onside (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Dec 30, 10:23:38
        
        It's not referring to the second pass (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 30, 10:26:05
        
        That’s a different scenario (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 10:25:07
        
        I get that it is different (NCFC) - Kangol Canary, Dec 30, 10:38:18
        
        Because that isn’t the rule (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 10:57:18
        
        Yes. Todd didn't get involved from that pass. Only from the next one (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 30, 10:19:23
    - please don't ever do that again (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 30, 09:53:18
      - it's almost as if the poster could warn the reader what they were posting (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 30, 15:24:06
      - back to the original question (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 30, 09:55:24
        
        You are reading it wrong (NCFC) - jamesward, Dec 30, 10:18:34
        
        Yes, but irrelevant (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 09:57:34
        
        talking of being thick (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 30, 10:02:44
        
        Pg 211 (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 10:08:17
        
        i only have 117 pages (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 30, 10:10:12
        
        Pg 211 (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 30, 10:12:11
        
        Stop trolling pal please (n/m) (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Dec 30, 10:07:48

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