Yes, easy to over focus on what it means for the UK

When compared to what it means to the world as a whole it is massive.

The UK would make the Pfizer / moderna solution work if required, hard to see how the developing world could do the same

Posted By: SimonOTBC on November 23rd 2020 at 10:23:26

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This Oxford vaccine news is tremendous (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:07:25
- The price and the fact it can go in the fridge is presumably massive (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 23, 10:22:07
  - Yes, easy to over focus on what it means for the UK (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 10:23:26
- Does the vaccine only work on those who wouldn't have needed hospital treatment? (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Nov 23, 09:38:25
  - The phase 2 trials showed that it worked well on the older population (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:41:14
  - No (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 09:39:56
    - The vaccine seems to work in a lower percentage than who go to hospital with Covid (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Nov 23, 09:45:58
      - No what it is saying is that of those on whom the vaccine did not work so as to prevent (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 23, 10:11:48
        
        If that's the case then that's incredibly reassuring (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 23, 10:18:14
      - Doesn’t seem to be any suggestion of that (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:50:23
- you not concerned bout the long term side effects at all? nobody knows what these are (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:20:35
  - Not worried Ill drink anything! (n/m) (General Chat) - KevinBond, Nov 23, 13:22:13
  - A compressed timescale isnt necessarily a rushed one (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 23, 09:52:23
    - Unless an effect takes a certain time to manifest? (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 23, 09:56:09
      - Seems the Oxford one is using existing tech (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 23, 09:58:00
        
        This is certainly an aspect that I find reassuring (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 23, 10:44:18
      - I’m not a scientist, but I find it hard to imagine how it could really (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:57:01
  - Yes. But it's a risk balance isn't it.... (General Chat) - Timmy_Goat, Nov 23, 09:44:49
  - Are the risk of adverse side effects really that high with vaccines? (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 23, 09:33:36
    - You might turn dark blue (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 23, 09:37:45
      - Then the rest of me would match the colour of my balls. (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 23, 09:44:20
    - Because Bill Gates is behind it (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 09:35:57
      - you have undermined your own argument now by being childish (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:38:18
        
        People genuinely believe this (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 09:41:41
        
        that'll be the morons then (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:44:41
        
        Indeed (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 09:49:58
        
        that happened here too. these people are probably all on facebook for hours a day (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 23, 15:39:20
  - I 've said before that I'm not entirely unconcerned (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 23, 09:31:47
    - good luck get well soon (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:46:43
    - Unclean! Unclean!! (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 23, 09:39:08
      - wipe down the keyboard, you'll be fine (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 23, 10:45:39
    - Get well soon paulg (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:34:58
  - Hasn’t been hastily rushed through panic (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 09:26:14
    - You are truly amazing (General Chat) - Charles21, Nov 23, 14:09:44
  - What’s the alternative? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:25:52
    - Spot on (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 09:29:53
      - That’s ridiculous (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:38:20
        
        Indeed (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 09:43:42
        
        VMT! (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:48:49
    - mask up, wash your hands, avoid morons (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:27:42
      - So where do you live? (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 23, 18:30:48
      - For how long? Not going to make the virus go away is it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 23, 09:38:55
        
        forever maybe? (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:41:06
        
        I guess not if you're settled down in a relationship and have no desire to form physical (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 23, 09:46:12
        
        Or ever go to a football match again (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:53:55
        
        or the virus mutates up its own arse (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:48:20
        
        Isn’t that risk increased by people not having the vaccine? (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:57:42
        
        I know you’re suggesting a mutation to make it milder (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:58:11
        
        Nobody knows thats the thing (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 10:01:04
      - Avoiding morons (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 23, 09:36:35
        
        (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 23, 10:21:18
        
        The world is made up of... (General Chat) - Jester, Nov 23, 09:37:28
        
        Lol (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 23, 09:40:34
      - That’s a solution on an individual level only, isn’t it? (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:29:03
        
        it is a collective solution as well (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:30:56
        
        World can’t stop forever (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 23, 09:55:39
        
        Hard to see how the economy would survive, at least in the form that we knew it (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:33:52
        
        inject the city people first with vaccine then we can see how we can make an informed choi (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:36:07
        
        I think anyone not wanting the vaccine should continue to do as you say... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:40:33
        
        If you are happy to take the vaccine then you must be convinced it will be om (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:59:05
        
        I don’t think that is right (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 10:04:59
        
        Yes I’d just been thinking about that (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 10:26:58
        
        Fair enough (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 10:23:33
        
        Haha! I tell you what.... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 10:27:48
        
        but you can't say "who" you are, and everyone has to guess (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 23, 10:56:21
        
        Haha! That sounds good! (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 11:32:41
        
        and if EssexC comes, bags I get first guess (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 23, 11:49:42
        
        That wouldn't be hard tbf,just look for the person surrounded by dozens (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 23, 11:54:02
        
        Lol 😂 (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Nov 23, 14:17:14
        
        OK (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 10:02:19
        
        Om sounded more philosophical (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 23, 10:02:42
        
        I want my blue vaccine passport (General Chat) - jamesward, Nov 23, 10:02:17
        
        Aren’t the vaccine manufacturers (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 09:38:53
        
        Tool up for the zombie apocalypse?? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 23, 09:37:12
        
        #ready (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:39:24
        
        It’s a collective mitigation (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 23, 09:32:00
        
        oh well, nevermind. it is what it is (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 23, 09:34:27
- Up to 90% if half dose followed by full (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 23, 09:16:49
  - No, we dont (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 23, 09:48:43
  - I’m not an epidemiologist by any stretch (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:21:33
    - If the 'not very vulnerable ' (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 23, 09:41:10
      - Absolutely, that’s step 1 (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 23, 09:44:57

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