Yes, it depends what evidence there is that he lied

doesn't answer the questions above though. That is, can the judiciary rule on *any* parliamentary conventions, irrespective of the reasons given for them?

Because that's what OG seems to be saying, and kind of what the English courts said.

Posted By: duke of york on September 11th 2019 at 13:28:40

Message Thread

Prorogation is unlawful! (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 10:15:13
- and we're off...................... (n/m) (General Chat) - ingi, Sep 11, 11:58:59
- Is it today they are required to comply with the Grieve request for info? (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 11, 11:24:01
  - Yep by 11pm (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:25:06
- Supreme Court next week for final decision (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 10:16:33
  - Although i've not been able to read the Scottish decison I find it hard to see (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 10:31:29
    - The advice to the Queen was unlawful (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 10:37:13
      - Surprised at that. Usually thats a high bar to get over. Will be interesting to see if the (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 10:46:17
        
        It raises quite an interesting issue (if you are a bit sad like me) actually because (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 11:00:22
        
        The Scottish case was their Supreme Court (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 12:10:07
        
        Yes but as I understand it the case now goes to the Supreme Court which (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 12:37:33
        
        The first instance Scottish judge ruled for the government (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 12:46:11
        
        Which undoubtedly will be reversed by yet a higher court next week (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 12:15:35
        
        Well my gut feeling would have been that (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 12:18:13
        
        Well if its deemed illegal do you not see how it is irrelevant? (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 12:23:18
        
        So why lie? (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 11, 12:50:21
        
        We don't know if he has lied. We haven't seen the advice (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 13:04:37
        
        Hard to decipher that but anyway (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 12:27:42
        
        Well the court may have got this wrong. Which is why the government can appeal. (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 13:02:49
        
        That was the advice given to Parliament (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 11, 13:08:33
        
        So you are comparing advice to queen and advice to parliament (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 13:34:58
        
        Well close to anyway (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 12:20:22
        
        Other than that Parliament should be sitting right now (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 11, 12:17:15
    - Which negotiations are they undermining Jim? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 11, 10:33:43
      - It's also all the other important bills it's stopping being debated and passed... (General Chat) - DrDublin, Sep 11, 10:44:17
        
        until Cameron changed it (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 11, 10:49:20
        
        It was 3 extra days wasn;t it? They would be off now anyway for party conferences (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 10:47:01
        
        Which means everything has to start from scratch (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:12:23
        
        To be honest whether is a prorogation/recess or whatever i just think its (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 11:22:32
        
        Passing what bills? The ones they've already passed that Dubs listed? (General Chat) - megson, Sep 11, 11:41:25
        
        I don;t regard either as a problem. Its just a bit sad frankly that (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 11:52:01
        
        So telling that you see holding the government to account (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 12:15:28
        
        What about holding the opposition to account? (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 12:18:20
        
        Officers that are only needed due to this govt cuts (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Sep 11, 12:39:53
        
        You missed the point. (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 13:06:12
        
        That was just a noise (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 12:23:08
        
        Missed the point also but nevermind (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 13:16:03
        
        I know everyone in staunch in their various political ideologies (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 12:10:15
        
        I agree with some of this, there is dangerous precedents being set. (General Chat) - megson, Sep 11, 12:38:18
        
        Without publishing of advice given you cannot tell if it lawful or not (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 13:08:17
        
        Yes, it depends what evidence there is that he lied (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 11, 13:28:40
        
        And as an alive branch I will acknowledge that he shouldn;t have done it (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 12:42:36
        
        That's recess, which doesn't stop those bills Dubs mentions from passing (General Chat) - megson, Sep 11, 10:51:58
        
        But Jim read it in the mail/sun/express (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:13:27
        
        It's a shame you haven't got a brain to debate and choose to insult instead (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 12:12:39
        
        Go away (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 12:23:48
        
        Again, pushing people to one side as you do not agree with their views (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 13:12:28
        
        I think you’re a weird cunt that’s all (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 13:16:08
        
        Well that's discourteous and ironic (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 14:00:55
        
        Absolutely correct Dubs. Yet another lie by the 'government' (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 11, 10:55:42
        
        I can think of a Labour government that lied say in "2003" (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 12:19:45
        
        All liars should be held to account. What's your point? (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 11, 12:37:20
        
        And yet i am sure you are aware that if you lie in the commons you cannot be prosecuted. (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 13:11:02
        
        Which Jim laps up like a good Tory (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:14:42
        
        Again, you are not convincing anyone to join your side. (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 12:13:05
        
        Have you ever met Jim? (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 11, 11:16:35
        
        Have you ever met the Queen? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:20:04
        
        What? (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 11, 11:21:48
        
        The Queen (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:25:33
        
        No. I've not met the Queen. (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 11, 11:27:04
        
        It’s a slightly creepy request tbh (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:30:21
        
        I'm just wondering (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 11, 11:39:59
        
        I don't take offence at SCC. Its what he's like on here. On Norwich related football (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 11:48:22
        
        That is true (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:51:07
        
        When the situation calls for it (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:47:55
      - Our parliament and opposition parties have consistently undermined negotiations (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 10:42:07
        
        That's what an Opposition does m8 (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 11, 14:59:02
        
        Fuck off you mail reading tosser (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:10:48
        
        Again, you haven't argued against the point. Back to insulting (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 12:13:48
        
        The point was purely daily mail nonsense (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 12:21:46
        
        Ok, well the fact you don't read the daily mail tells me that you haven't explored (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 11, 13:15:06
        
        The Taioseach said that Johnson's plans to avoid a backstop were "not realistic" (General Chat) - Dog, Sep 11, 11:01:38
        
        What poloticians say in public is said for all sorts of reasons (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 11:18:58
        
        Mainly to mislead or pander... (General Chat) - Dog, Sep 11, 11:20:35
        
        The first PM in history (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:24:06
        
        On all sides. (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 11:23:12
        
        Trumpian (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 11:26:40
        
        Taoiseach* (n/m) (General Chat) - Dog, Sep 11, 11:02:29
        
        Amber Rudd said he's not negotiating. You'd think she might know. (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 11, 10:49:11
        
        “Less partisan press” (General Chat) - APB, Sep 11, 10:47:48
        
        Essentially the broadsheets! I tend to read the Times and the Guardian to get a bit of (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 10:49:22
        
        Neither of which are not partisan, which is what I was getting at. (General Chat) - APB, Sep 11, 12:11:53
        
        They are not as extreme as some of the tabloids though (except maybe the guardian) (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 13:00:38
        
        The Guardian is in no way extreme. (General Chat) - APB, Sep 11, 13:25:17
        
        And hardly sensationalist (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 11, 15:50:51
        
        I agree boris should be allowed to succeed or fail without excessive interference (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 11, 10:47:23
        
        That should say "shouldn't" agree certain things with May (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 11, 10:42:53
      - these ones maybe? (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 11, 10:40:06
      - Even if there aren’t negotiations going on... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 11, 10:39:50
        
        Though a few extra days for further speeches about Bercow would be very welcome (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 11, 10:46:03
      - The imaginary ones in his head (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 10:37:51
        
        The great day is coming scc, it's only s matter of time! (General Chat) - Men without hats, Sep 11, 11:10:37
        
        Murray winning another slam? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 11, 12:22:12

Reply to Message

In order to add a post to the WotB Message Board you must be a registered WotB user.

If you are not yet registered then please visit the registration page. You should ensure that their browser is setup to accept cookies.