It's worse than that.

He's set on building possession from the back but selecting midfielders who don't facilitate that approach. The first Kosovo goal is a case in point. Barkley plays a poor pass back to Keane, who's probably been conditioned in training sessions to play a pass instead of just clearing the danger. He plays a blind pass and the goal is conceded. But the fault lies with Barkley. I don't think Winks or Madders play such a sloppy pass in the same situation.

Given the wealth of attacking talent he's got, he should think about abandoning the Barca-lite England DNA approach and just go full Klopp. High press, counter-attack, pace and dynamism.

Posted By: marsupialman on September 11th 2019 at 12:46:27

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Even the Today programme asked why Southgate played the same midfield twice and didn’t (Other Football) - Old Git, Sep 11, 08:26:27
- I think it comes down to the formation England play (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 08:42:19
  - Interesting, thanks (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Sep 11, 09:56:34
  - Yes, think you're right (Other Football) - duke of york, Sep 11, 09:12:25
    - Its a bit of a kick and rush formation isn;t it and (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 09:22:32
      - I'm not sure Barkley or Mount offer anything more defensively than Maddison would (n/m) (Other Football) - jAC, Sep 11, 10:10:58
        
        The England backroom staff would have every bit of analysis (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:23:52
      - It all tends to highlight Southgate's narrow mindedness (Other Football) - paulg, Sep 11, 09:56:22
      - Most counter attacking teams are compact in defence and midfield (Other Football) - duke of york, Sep 11, 09:38:28
        
        It's worse than that. (Other Football) - marsupialman, Sep 11, 12:46:27
        
        Most of our "possession" is us knocking it around on the half way line against teams who (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 09:47:42
        
        There was periods of the 1st last night when we kept the ball brillintly (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 09:45:51
        
        I think a problem is also that because Sterling and Sancho (Other Football) - duke of york, Sep 11, 09:55:23
        
        That’s down to England playing an attacking style isn’t it? (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:05:17
        
        Which is definitely true (Other Football) - duke of york, Sep 11, 10:15:49
        
        Ultimately we always fall short don’t we? (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:22:00
        
        I think the 4-2-3-1 formation would work but one of the 2 needs to be a passer as well as (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 09:49:07
      - A massive fuck you to Madders? (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 09:36:22
        
        Yes. I really think so. Its very apparent that Southgate is snubbing him. I (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 09:45:20
        
        This is similar to the Patrick Roberts situation isn’t it? (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:28:33
        
        Have you considered England subbed on Mount (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 09:50:39
        
        I don't think that there is any evidence to say he's better in that position (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 10:01:23
        
        Madders has a full season more top flight experience than mount... (Other Football) - loz, Sep 11, 10:19:36
        
        As a passionate England fan I trust the current England staff (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:08:26
        
        and Trap was wrong on Wesso (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 11, 09:54:23
        
        It’s certainly debatable (n/m) (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:08:56
      - You can add Rice to that list as well. Straight in the team when called up (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 09:23:37
- Have to imagine it’s a personality thing. (Other Football) - lurd, Sep 11, 08:37:06
  - Hmm - not a great look!! (Other Football) - paulg, Sep 11, 09:57:52
  - How did David Beckham manage to be so successful for England then? (Other Football) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 11, 08:55:32
    - He played for Man Utd (n/m) (Other Football) - lurd, Sep 11, 09:37:25
    - well for a start Beckham was a better footballer (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 11, 09:11:06
      - Remember George Best's comments about Beckham ...? (Other Football) - paulg, Sep 11, 09:59:30

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