I don't think that there is any evidence to say he's better in that position

I think the best you can say is its 50/50 in which case over 2 games you would expect each of them to get a run out.

I have serious doubts as ti whether Madders will get a chance under Southgate. By the time the next internationals come around you will no doubt have Ali back, probably Lingaard as well and then after that Loftus Cheek and Hudson Odoi. Southgate will want to select all of them ahead of him.

Of course I have a bias towards Maddison as he used to play for us but its because of that we know what he can do as a passionate England fan I want to see Southgate get this midfield right ahead of the tournament. I don't think he will do.

I may be wrong on this but (other than perhaps sub keepers drafted in to make up the numbers) I can't think of any other players Southgate has called up in the last 2/3 years who have not been given a single minute on the pitch? I would be interested to know if there are any.

Posted By: Jim on September 11th 2019 at 10:01:23

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Even the Today programme asked why Southgate played the same midfield twice and didn’t (Other Football) - Old Git, Sep 11, 08:26:27
- I think it comes down to the formation England play (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 08:42:19
  - Interesting, thanks (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Sep 11, 09:56:34
  - Yes, think you're right (Other Football) - duke of york, Sep 11, 09:12:25
    - Its a bit of a kick and rush formation isn;t it and (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 09:22:32
      - I'm not sure Barkley or Mount offer anything more defensively than Maddison would (n/m) (Other Football) - jAC, Sep 11, 10:10:58
        
        The England backroom staff would have every bit of analysis (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:23:52
      - It all tends to highlight Southgate's narrow mindedness (Other Football) - paulg, Sep 11, 09:56:22
      - Most counter attacking teams are compact in defence and midfield (Other Football) - duke of york, Sep 11, 09:38:28
        
        It's worse than that. (Other Football) - marsupialman, Sep 11, 12:46:27
        
        Most of our "possession" is us knocking it around on the half way line against teams who (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 09:47:42
        
        There was periods of the 1st last night when we kept the ball brillintly (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 09:45:51
        
        I think a problem is also that because Sterling and Sancho (Other Football) - duke of york, Sep 11, 09:55:23
        
        That’s down to England playing an attacking style isn’t it? (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:05:17
        
        Which is definitely true (Other Football) - duke of york, Sep 11, 10:15:49
        
        Ultimately we always fall short don’t we? (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:22:00
        
        I think the 4-2-3-1 formation would work but one of the 2 needs to be a passer as well as (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 09:49:07
      - A massive fuck you to Madders? (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 09:36:22
        
        Yes. I really think so. Its very apparent that Southgate is snubbing him. I (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 09:45:20
        
        This is similar to the Patrick Roberts situation isn’t it? (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:28:33
        
        Have you considered England subbed on Mount (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 09:50:39
        
        I don't think that there is any evidence to say he's better in that position (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 10:01:23
        
        Madders has a full season more top flight experience than mount... (Other Football) - loz, Sep 11, 10:19:36
        
        As a passionate England fan I trust the current England staff (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:08:26
        
        and Trap was wrong on Wesso (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 11, 09:54:23
        
        It’s certainly debatable (n/m) (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Sep 11, 10:08:56
      - You can add Rice to that list as well. Straight in the team when called up (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Sep 11, 09:23:37
- Have to imagine it’s a personality thing. (Other Football) - lurd, Sep 11, 08:37:06
  - Hmm - not a great look!! (Other Football) - paulg, Sep 11, 09:57:52
  - How did David Beckham manage to be so successful for England then? (Other Football) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 11, 08:55:32
    - He played for Man Utd (n/m) (Other Football) - lurd, Sep 11, 09:37:25
    - well for a start Beckham was a better footballer (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 11, 09:11:06
      - Remember George Best's comments about Beckham ...? (Other Football) - paulg, Sep 11, 09:59:30

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