I worry about the consequences of any second referendum

I voted Remain.

At least one of the narratives around Brexit (and Trump, for that matter) is democracy finally reflecting the views - however "uninformed" the chattering classes would paint them as - of vast swathes of the effectively disenfranchised.

In this world view, much of the reaction to the vote has been the squealing of said chattering classes as democracy turns into something done to them by people quite unlike them. Which is what it's been like for those left-behind groups for too long.

Polls suggest a second referendum would be a narrow win for Remain, largely due to demography.

However the net effect of telling those people who finally felt they'd had a say that, actually, "we" are going to keep on asking until we get the right answer might be very ugly indeed.

For this reason I don't support a second referendum, though if there was one, I'd still vote Remain in it.

Posted By: Old Man on November 14th 2018 at 20:58:43

Message Thread

Didnt we already have the people's vote? (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 14, 20:48:25
- Don’t think they would dare as you could (n/m) (General Chat) - Dajpun, Nov 14, 21:40:48
- I worry about the consequences of any second referendum (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 14, 20:58:43
  - I voted Remain but Old Man's analysis is absolutely spot on... (General Chat) - Saucerer, Nov 14, 21:42:48
    - Slightly problematic when everyone hates the outcome (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 21:45:46
      - not everybody, maybe not a majority even now. The mistake was the referendum, not the resu (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Nov 14, 22:45:00
        
        The result being the withdrawal agreement (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 22:49:34
        
        Outcome (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 22:50:07
      - And when it was demonstrably based on lies (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 14, 22:02:32
        
        And when electoral law was broken (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 22:10:54
        
        All of which may be true....but that should have been .... (General Chat) - Saucerer, Nov 14, 23:01:46
        
        the beauty of democracy though is that (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 14, 23:24:45
        
        Which if Parliament decided I would very happily live with.... (General Chat) - Saucerer, Nov 14, 23:33:09
        
        The only mention of civil disobedience (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 23:54:29
        
        VMT (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 23:29:15
        
        Not strictly true (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 23:08:58
        
        Know what you are saying....and probably agree but.... (General Chat) - Saucerer, Nov 14, 23:17:47
        
        Ardent leaver on newsnight just now (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 23:27:59
        
        Outs out... stop messing about your worse than may... get on with it (n/m) (General Chat) - Pukki Pies, Nov 14, 22:36:18
        
        Are you ok? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 22:51:00
  - Sigh! I am NOT one of the chattering classes. I am me. My view is just as valid as the 52% (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Nov 14, 21:38:46
    - If the vote went remain (General Chat) - Pukki Pies, Nov 14, 22:34:39
    - I don't like first past the post never have. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 14, 21:54:39
    - Completely agree. If it was possible to find any redeeming feature by leaving then I would (General Chat) - shortfatb, Nov 14, 21:49:24
  - 💕🍆💦😘✊✌️ (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Nov 14, 21:18:45
  - Except they’ve had the chance to get the good deal promised (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 21:13:14
  - i worry more about the consequences of a no deal brexit tbh (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 21:05:55
    - Me too! (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Nov 14, 21:39:23
  - Well put, OM. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Nov 14, 21:04:26
  - that's what happens when you open up important decisions to a deeply flawed populist vote (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 14, 21:01:42
    - He really, really should. (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 14, 21:02:17
      - I feel that way about so many of them (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 14, 21:09:40
        
        The media gave Farage his voice (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 21:22:22
- yeah in 1973 (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 20:53:42
- Not a fan of the name (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 20:53:06
  - Indeed. A vote on the deal is entirely different to a leave yes/no. (General Chat) - norway, Nov 14, 20:55:40
    - But it wouldnt be that would it (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 14, 21:04:30
      - And depends on your point of view surely. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 14, 21:58:25
      - Well the deal is rather important (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 21:15:06
        
        Remainers will never want it (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 14, 21:16:26
        
        They could vote for no deal (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 21:25:17
        
        too few will actually read it and form their own view either way (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 14, 21:24:43
        
        Agreed, they have decided already. (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 14, 21:30:11
      - Depends on the question I suppose. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Nov 14, 21:13:54
- We had a vote about a lying bus (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 20:53:00
  - It's up to people to understand how the Tories work (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Nov 14, 20:58:36
    - google: psychopaths / sociopaths / pathological liars ??? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 21:18:32
- 100% agree. I didn't want it either, but it's done now (General Chat) - pants, Nov 14, 20:50:24
- yes, the last general election (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 14, 20:49:25

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