No offense, but you clearly either haven't read the paper, or haven't understood it

More likely not bothered to really read it, as the calm and careful analysis of what the evidence actually is on immigration doesn't fit with your strongly held prior that immigration is really really important to jobs/wages.

The analysis in the paper looks at the overall effect of immigration region by region, over time, running a wealth of cross checks and test, and the results are clear. What's happened to wages and employment is the GFC, not immigration.

Your anecdotal "i visit building sites..." is one tiny tiny element of a complex inter-related economy.

Posted By: Under soil heating on September 14th 2018 at 11:54:23

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FAO essex (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 09:23:02
- ok thanks (n/m) (Other Sports) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 14, 17:09:36
- 71 (n/m) (Other Sports) - Mr Creosote, Sep 14, 14:57:53
- The "lefty remain" argument was not anything to do with a bus... That was the (Other Sports) - Steve in Holland, Sep 14, 12:41:30
  - After the vote (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 12:54:23
    - "Yesterday Ralf used it as "banter"" - fuck off did i (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 13:03:28
      - Apologies (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 13:09:42
        
        commenting on a thread on a public messageboard is not 'jumping on' (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 13:29:17
- "lefty remain" (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 10:33:31
  - Touche (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 11:07:41
    - Anyway for anything worth saying? (n/m) (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 11:09:12
      - I try to be open to the evidence too (Other Sports) - Under soil heating, Sep 14, 11:20:22
        
        Yes it is a good paper. (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 11:44:47
        
        No offense, but you clearly either haven't read the paper, or haven't understood it (Other Sports) - Under soil heating, Sep 14, 11:54:23
        
        Ok. (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 12:09:28
        
        14% (Other Sports) - Under soil heating, Sep 14, 12:33:04
        
        It doesn't differentiate between (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 13:07:35
        
        Also. (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 13:10:37
        
        ref last para (Other Sports) - CWC, Sep 14, 12:17:26
        
        or (where possible) they'll move the jobs abroad (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 12:34:13
        
        Well. (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 12:23:30
        
        If that’s the case why vote to change anything in the first place? (Other Sports) - APB, Sep 14, 13:41:07
        
        Yes (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 14:01:35
        
        what was unreasonable about it? (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 14:15:27
        
        Definition of insanity. (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 14:22:50
        
        there's a lot of assertions there with little to back any of them up (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 15:00:52
        
        It was more of a protest vote anyway (n/m) (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 14:23:45
        
        Or (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 12:12:58
- i wasn't making any assumption (Other Sports) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 14, 09:43:07
- Unfortunately this whole thing was a failure of (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 09:26:59
  - and part of the reason for the failure to invest (Other Sports) - paulg, Sep 14, 09:56:32
    - which will still be plentiful and cheap (Other Sports) - CWC, Sep 14, 09:59:44
      - Yep (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 10:19:40
        
        LOL (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Sep 14, 10:30:38
        
        No, they couldn't. Breach of UK obligations (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 11:24:24
        
        yes they could (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 11:48:25
        
        Would be great if there were numbers right? For context and all. (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 14:12:34
        
        why do you want to deport these hypothetical families? (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 14:17:32
        
        I don't (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 14:38:37
        
        you have made nothing clear (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 15:17:51
        
        Problem is: (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 15:38:08
        
        It's understandable. It's a confusing subject (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 15:30:07
        
        no, your posts are not clear or "clear" (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 15:41:56
        
        So were point scoring are we? (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 15:55:13
        
        oh dear, no. (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 16:02:37
        
        Sorry (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 16:13:24
        
        Oh I see (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 16:09:29
        
        There you go with your identity politics again. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 14, 18:56:11
        
        Waheey (Other Sports) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 14, 20:53:34
        
        wevs (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 15, 00:11:32
        
        Not true (Other Sports) - mr carra, Sep 14, 11:38:12
      - well, if it is, the problem will remain unsolved (n/m) (Other Sports) - paulg, Sep 14, 10:02:35
        
        I can't think of any problems inspiring a Leave vote (Other Sports) - CWC, Sep 14, 11:10:44
        
        And worse (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Sep 14, 10:07:23

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