Herein lies a very deep irony
When I first popped up on here 12 years or so ago, no-one ever called me 'nasty'. What they did call me was 'boring'. Not just too many words - but too many dense posts altogether. I had tons of people, on here and elsewhere, saying "Shaun, you make good points - but your writing needs more balls".
So I sharpened it - still wrote tons, but less, well, woolly stuff. And now look! There's a balance somewhere in between which I need to find.
I read Jim's response to you too. And found myself thinking "if I wrote that, the response would be... 'too many words'".
It's perfectly normal that people have differing criticisms. 2 days ago, separate posters complained that I "lacked passion" and "cared too much"... with regard to which, what can I do? On camcan though, three things:
1. No-one anywhere thinks camcan is 'nasty' or anything like it
2. No-one anywhere thinks the sun shines out of my arse or anything like it, nor should they (and contrary to popular belief, I certainly don't think it either. It's awfully close to the exact opposite)
3. Camcan referred to my post as 'nasty' and me as 'nasty'. A few people took exception to that because they thought that was unfair. That's all.
Yes, I do generalise at times. But here's the thing. That post which got me lambasted for "sneering at/dismissing 10,000 fans"? I added a very similar Jim-style rider right before it, in which I said I didn't want to criticise those fans, didn't want it to come over like I was criticising them, that those fans sustain the club, and they've put way more money into it than I ever have.
And that was ignored by almost everyone in favour of a very simplistic "who does TBF think he is?" narrative instead. Sign of the times. If people hate wordiness, it's awfully rich for the same people to complain about lack of nuance too. If people hate over-complicated posts, it's awfully rich for them to complain about directness too. Etc etc etc.
Posted By: thebigfeller on September 5th 2018 at 19:43:07
Message Thread
- Can I add something to the Jim vs TBF chat from down there vvv (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 19:15:14
- Thank you for your kind words but (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 21:31:01
- Anyway as per the posts below I think best we all just move on (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 21:42:07
- Spot on. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 5, 20:42:51
- Most interesting thing for me was when tbf (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 5, 20:28:17
- a mass one? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 20:46:27
- Did I use those words? If I did, I am a twat. (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:31:23
- More words (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 5, 20:37:50
- NBTTT (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 20:10:22
- I genuinely don't get the reaction to a post being called nasty (General Chat) - earlydoors, Sep 5, 20:09:37
- I didn't see any either. I did see some calling him out for calling me 'nasty'. (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:12:39
- Her. camcan is a woman. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 20:27:04
- Thanks - and apologies to her! (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:32:18
- So is BWOD (n/m) (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:02:27
- Thanks - and apologies to her! (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:32:18
- Her. camcan is a woman. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 20:27:04
- I didn't see any either. I did see some calling him out for calling me 'nasty'. (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:12:39
- Jim drives me nuts. (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 20:02:17
- Ah! See I can predict what Jim will say, so usually don't read them if I think they'll (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:08:15
- So you don't read many of his posts... yet still call him 'negative'? How do you know? (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:15:06
- long standing regular poster (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 21:26:16
- Thank you CWC! 'glass half empty' is exactly what I meant by 'negative' (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 21:52:58
- long standing regular poster (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 21:26:16
- An excellent and life-extending strategy! (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 20:11:26
- So you don't read many of his posts... yet still call him 'negative'? How do you know? (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:15:06
- Oh and... your post is spot on as always. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 20:06:06
- Ah! See I can predict what Jim will say, so usually don't read them if I think they'll (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:08:15
- What was posted to cc? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 19:47:27
- This one innit (General Chat) - Lucky Pierre, Sep 5, 20:23:11
- Ah she knows he's abit of a Muppet,doubt it worries her tbh. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 20:26:04
- He was in full troll mode on that thread (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 5, 20:31:01
- vmt. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 20:45:20
- I'm a bit baffled tbh. (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:40:46
- ok he didn't call her 'nasty', he implied she was 'unpleasant' (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 21:27:53
- Let sleeping dogs lie (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 5, 20:55:12
- He was in full troll mode on that thread (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 5, 20:31:01
- Ah she knows he's abit of a Muppet,doubt it worries her tbh. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 20:26:04
- This one innit (General Chat) - Lucky Pierre, Sep 5, 20:23:11
- Thanks BWOD (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 5, 19:47:21
- It's tomorrow - two inset days - but thanks :) (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:03:55
- Herein lies a very deep irony (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 19:43:07
- Ok, I'll leave it here. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:30:37
- I'm sad that you feel I didn't engage with you. I just provided a context. (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:43:47
- Also, very quickly (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 19:50:04
- You once called me out for abusing Jim (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 19:55:16
- Your having a laugh (General Chat) - Lucky Pierre, Sep 5, 20:42:54
- Err... none of those posts are abusive. (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 21:22:24
- Abd (General Chat) - Lucky Pierre, Sep 5, 20:50:35
- not one of those was SoS abusing Jim though (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 5, 21:38:51
- Why not log in with your normal username? (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 20:53:00
- Here we go... Lucky Pierre's first post (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 21:47:44
- Incredible that this *lurker* has singled out a post of mine for some reason (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 21:24:38
- I don't even remember doing that. So if you link me up to where I did (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:08:57
- After a quick look I cannot find it but (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:01:03
- Very very very much this. Classy stuff, and thankyou. *group hug* (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 21:02:28
- Can I also say (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:38:57
- Thankyou. I'm sure they all are too. Anonymity is another problem online (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 21:42:55
- Can I also say (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:38:57
- Very very very much this. Classy stuff, and thankyou. *group hug* (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 21:02:28
- After a quick look I cannot find it but (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:01:03
- Your having a laugh (General Chat) - Lucky Pierre, Sep 5, 20:42:54
- You once called me out for abusing Jim (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 19:55:16
- Ok, I'll leave it here. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:30:37
- I very much agree (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 5, 19:31:31
- I much prefer it when tbf's trying to avoid work (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 21:31:12
- true, I, on the other hand, was very busy, so couldn't drill down to the all-important (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 5, 22:50:42
- I much prefer it when tbf's trying to avoid work (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 21:31:12
- Thank you for your kind words but (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 21:31:01
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