Can I add something to the Jim vs TBF chat from down there vvv
Here's what I've noticed...
TBF's view on fans who disagree with him:
Ridiculous. I can't get over how unbelievably passive, accepting and worse, self-aggrandising many of our fans are. Fans of a club which once upon a time, got into Europe ourselves, and would never have regarded relegation as acceptable.
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The tone for me absolutely comes across as critical and judgmental.
Jim's views on fans who disagree with him:
I was very interested to read BWOD's posts re TBF from last night where she set out her views on the club as well also as Shortfabs excellent post. What is conveyed to me is that we of course all have different levels of expectation for the club, different aspirations and different things that frustrate us. I would see BWODS list of what she wants and looks for from our club (I was going to say aspirations but that's not quite fair as clearly we all want our side to win every game if possible) as more in line with the current board's. Mine are perhaps more demanding in comparison...
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This strikes me as someone who has read and thought about different view points, understood where they come from and respectfully accepts that fans think differently even if they completely disagree with what is posted.
Jim's negativity drives me crazy at times (as no doubt my positivity does him!) but I have no problems whatsoever with his posts. I get the impression he posts because he wants to share his views, not because he wants to troll or demand attention.
For me, TBF's posts like a politician who won't let the interviewer or another guest interrupt - so wordy that it's hard to follow his points. It was hard to see that he had any empathy for other views in his responses over the last couple of days, yet felt very sorry for himself yesterday that he was so misunderstood.
Finally, camcan is absolutely one of my favourite posters on here. I cannot believe the irony that one of the few posters on here who really does post nasty things should say that about camcan :(
Posted By: Bravo win or die on September 5th 2018 at 19:15:14
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- Can I add something to the Jim vs TBF chat from down there vvv (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 19:15:14
- Thank you for your kind words but (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 21:31:01
- Anyway as per the posts below I think best we all just move on (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 21:42:07
- Spot on. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 5, 20:42:51
- Most interesting thing for me was when tbf (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 5, 20:28:17
- a mass one? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 20:46:27
- Did I use those words? If I did, I am a twat. (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:31:23
- More words (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 5, 20:37:50
- NBTTT (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 20:10:22
- I genuinely don't get the reaction to a post being called nasty (General Chat) - earlydoors, Sep 5, 20:09:37
- I didn't see any either. I did see some calling him out for calling me 'nasty'. (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:12:39
- Her. camcan is a woman. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 20:27:04
- Thanks - and apologies to her! (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:32:18
- So is BWOD (n/m) (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:02:27
- Thanks - and apologies to her! (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:32:18
- Her. camcan is a woman. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 20:27:04
- I didn't see any either. I did see some calling him out for calling me 'nasty'. (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:12:39
- Jim drives me nuts. (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 20:02:17
- Ah! See I can predict what Jim will say, so usually don't read them if I think they'll (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:08:15
- So you don't read many of his posts... yet still call him 'negative'? How do you know? (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:15:06
- long standing regular poster (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 21:26:16
- Thank you CWC! 'glass half empty' is exactly what I meant by 'negative' (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 21:52:58
- long standing regular poster (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 21:26:16
- An excellent and life-extending strategy! (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 20:11:26
- So you don't read many of his posts... yet still call him 'negative'? How do you know? (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:15:06
- Oh and... your post is spot on as always. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 20:06:06
- Ah! See I can predict what Jim will say, so usually don't read them if I think they'll (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:08:15
- What was posted to cc? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 19:47:27
- This one innit (General Chat) - Lucky Pierre, Sep 5, 20:23:11
- Ah she knows he's abit of a Muppet,doubt it worries her tbh. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 20:26:04
- He was in full troll mode on that thread (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 5, 20:31:01
- vmt. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 20:45:20
- I'm a bit baffled tbh. (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:40:46
- ok he didn't call her 'nasty', he implied she was 'unpleasant' (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 21:27:53
- Let sleeping dogs lie (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 5, 20:55:12
- He was in full troll mode on that thread (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 5, 20:31:01
- Ah she knows he's abit of a Muppet,doubt it worries her tbh. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 5, 20:26:04
- This one innit (General Chat) - Lucky Pierre, Sep 5, 20:23:11
- Thanks BWOD (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 5, 19:47:21
- It's tomorrow - two inset days - but thanks :) (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:03:55
- Herein lies a very deep irony (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 19:43:07
- Ok, I'll leave it here. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:30:37
- I'm sad that you feel I didn't engage with you. I just provided a context. (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:43:47
- Also, very quickly (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 19:50:04
- You once called me out for abusing Jim (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 19:55:16
- Your having a laugh (General Chat) - Lucky Pierre, Sep 5, 20:42:54
- Err... none of those posts are abusive. (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 21:22:24
- Abd (General Chat) - Lucky Pierre, Sep 5, 20:50:35
- not one of those was SoS abusing Jim though (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 5, 21:38:51
- Why not log in with your normal username? (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 20:53:00
- Here we go... Lucky Pierre's first post (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 21:47:44
- Incredible that this *lurker* has singled out a post of mine for some reason (General Chat) - norway, Sep 5, 21:24:38
- I don't even remember doing that. So if you link me up to where I did (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 20:08:57
- After a quick look I cannot find it but (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:01:03
- Very very very much this. Classy stuff, and thankyou. *group hug* (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 21:02:28
- Can I also say (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:38:57
- Thankyou. I'm sure they all are too. Anonymity is another problem online (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 21:42:55
- Can I also say (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:38:57
- Very very very much this. Classy stuff, and thankyou. *group hug* (n/m) (General Chat) - thebigfeller, Sep 5, 21:02:28
- After a quick look I cannot find it but (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 21:01:03
- Your having a laugh (General Chat) - Lucky Pierre, Sep 5, 20:42:54
- You once called me out for abusing Jim (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Sep 5, 19:55:16
- Ok, I'll leave it here. (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Sep 5, 20:30:37
- I very much agree (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 5, 19:31:31
- I much prefer it when tbf's trying to avoid work (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 21:31:12
- true, I, on the other hand, was very busy, so couldn't drill down to the all-important (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 5, 22:50:42
- I much prefer it when tbf's trying to avoid work (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 21:31:12
- Thank you for your kind words but (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 21:31:01
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