'all the fuss' LMAO

Yes we would get all of the Regulations and Directives and Decisions and the rest. To be 'aligned' means that our rules have to be the same (or as near as damnit the same) as theirs, because if they are not then we are not aligned.

We are not going to have, for example, a Financial Services Rules (EU customers) and Financial Services Rules (UK customers), Product Safety Rules (UK customers) Product Safety Rules (EU customers), Employment Rules (UK citizens) and Employment Rules (EU citizens). That way madness lies.

Davis's 'alignment' vs 'harmonisation' is pure semantics designed to pull the wool over people's eyes.

But the brilliant thing is that we will no longer be able to influence how these rules are developed.

In practice we'll do what we did at school when cribbing a mate's homework. We'll change the words around a bit and pretend that it's our own work (taking back control!) and hope that we don't change anything too important that gets us bad marks (hauled before whatever tribunal we agree to submit to in this scenario - probably a specially convened version of the ECJ with a token British judge).

And even better, any free trade deal we do with a third party will also need to reflect this requirement for alignment, as we won't be able to have goods floating around the UK that could be exported to the EU unless (i) they are EU/customs compliant (ii) we are otherwise prepared to indemnify the EU against claims arising from non-compliance.

And as for free movement, do I need to bother with the ridiculousness of what alignment would mean?

It's all terribly brilliant. Control eh? Lovely.

I cannot stress enough how people like Davis simply do not understand how the EU or its laws work, and how much consistently ignore their own advisors on such matters. And these people are negotiating the single most important issue for this country in (probably) our lifetimes.

They are chasing a unicorn.

Posted By: CWC on December 5th 2017 at 17:54:42

Message Thread

if we are going to have the same rules as the EU (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 5, 16:03:16
- Wow. Next thing they’ll be telling us the trade deals aren’t better! (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Dec 5, 21:43:26
- The first link is to the Guardian the second link is to the Daily Mail. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Dec 5, 16:49:42
  - Norway (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 5, 17:06:16
    - Don’t think he is. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Dec 5, 18:48:36
      - I know right? (General Chat) - norway, Dec 5, 19:21:12
  - Balanced reporting? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 5, 16:54:18
  - Balanced (n/m) (General Chat) - yellowman, Dec 5, 16:53:45
- wow - how did that happen? (n/m) (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Dec 5, 16:23:52
  - Lol (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Dec 5, 21:42:57
  - Because we hoisted our flag to the EU mast for 40 years and the powers (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 5, 16:42:09
    - *that*, *too* (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 5, 16:46:58
  - Too many people voted Tory? (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Dec 5, 16:33:20
- Exactly what I assumed would happen, which is the main reason (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 5, 16:19:56
  - We wouldn't necessarily get "all the rules" though (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 5, 17:07:50
    - Oh Jim Jim Jim (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 17:58:50
    - 'all the fuss' LMAO (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 5, 17:54:42
      - That may or may not be the outcome but what I was referring to is that (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 5, 18:46:52
        
        Dont fall for the 'we need to agree Phase 2 first' crap (General Chat) - CWC, Dec 5, 20:40:30
        
        I would say the Irish and EU demands were on the whole reasonable based on previous... (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Dec 5, 19:12:57
      - NATO looking to remove EU border crossing rules for troops (General Chat) - Tombs, Dec 5, 18:40:42
      - Played (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Dec 5, 18:24:42
      - And the whole procedure, to end up back where we started but (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 5, 18:13:17
    - will it mean we get to keep our bendy bananas? (General Chat) - Tombs, Dec 5, 17:17:20
- Project Fear, stop talking Britain down. (General Chat) - mr chimp, Dec 5, 16:16:44
- It's almost like we had no plan or idea what we were in for! (n/m) (General Chat) - lurd, Dec 5, 16:14:46
  - If only someone had warned people! (General Chat) - bird table, Dec 5, 17:05:09
    - Yeah, but experts eh?? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 5, 17:16:41

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