Yeah, the opinion on here changes like the wind.

Said since the start of the season that we should be aiming for a point per game and a 17th place finish, which would keep us up. We're not managing the former at the moment, but it's not like we're far away from that overall. If we were in Villa's position I would be truly worried. At least we have a chance.

Not sure why anyone thinks they can blame the manager when the club's player recruitment has generally been dreadful over the past five windows. Even last season, we failed to make signings with an eye to the future, in the sense that they could genuinely develop into Prem quality players. The only genuine quality or potential that has been recruited in that time includes Redmond, Mulumbu and Brady. That's just not good enough when so many of our squad have passed their peaks and are declining.

Posted By: Common Sense Police on December 5th 2015 at 23:14:18

Message Thread

Last week: "We've turned a corner. So much more solid. Sir Alex so clever" (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 20:43:53
- Yeah, the opinion on here changes like the wind. (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 23:14:18
- To do that you need players who will scrap for every point as Stoke did.. (NCFC) - colincanary, Dec 5, 22:05:35
  - Stoke have better players than us and a better side and squad than us (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 22:07:33
- there might be some fair points in this (NCFC) - matt in london, Dec 5, 21:32:45
- This is so spot on (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, Dec 5, 21:30:22
  - indeed; we're probably the least attractive team in the league for potential signings (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:45:26
- vmt - excellent post (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 20:57:52
  - those who turned on hughton were correct (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:05:31
    - Hughton era was dire he even managed to fuck up wflgh. Dreary depressing football. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:08:26
    - he didn't get us relegated (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:07:29
      - lol how (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:15:14
        
        relegation contenders beat better teams all the time at the end of the season (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:19:28
        
        Important games like west brom at home? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:24:48
        
        And against big teams... (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:27:28
        
        what a load of rubbish (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:31:53
        
        I give up. It's impossible to argue with someone that takes a stance based on no logic (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:38:07
        
        Bingo (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:34:49
        
        oh behave sunderland's miracle run destroyed any chance (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:20:16
        
        chances of relegation after wba were (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:24:45
        
        doesn't really work like that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:27:23
        
        but that ignores wba being safe when losing their final 2 (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:30:08
        
        well, that's exactly my point (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:33:15
        
        lol sunderland had 'live' games no matter what we did (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:41:01
      - I agree with meca: albeit, it's complicated (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:12:10
        
        Well yes of course. (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:19:51
        
        It's not a recipe for long term success. It's a recipe for survival (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:25:55
        
        Lambert seemed to do ok for us with that strategy (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:41:59
        
        vmt - and also Neil is not so effective (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:29:49
      - Are you on drugs ???? Or his mum ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:08:56
      - Rofl (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:07:51
        
        He wouldn't have kept us up (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:08:27
        
        which shit players? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:11:58
        
        Spending ?19M on Hooper, RVW and Fer (hugely overrated luxury) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 22:57:48
        
        yeah cos sunderland hadn't taken 13 points from their next 5 matches yet lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:17:50
        
        Erm RVW in particular (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:14:15
        
        nice backtracking (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:17:52
        
        No backtracking. (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:23:14
        
        I don't think we were going down under Hughton (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:24:29
        
        I can't prove you wrong, no one can (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:33:26
        
        not really trolling anyone (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:37:17
        
        how well he did here? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:44:29
        
        I haven't seen anyone say hughton is a bad manager (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:42:59
        
        bit of revisionism there (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:49:24
        
        it wasn't ultimately effective at all (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:59:15
        
        Correct (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 22:03:02
        
        yes because of sunderland (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:26:57
  - I was noticing that in the first half hour last week. It worried me a lot (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:03:43
    - Are we developing? I see regression (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:17:11
    - Yeah I have difficulty watching defe (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:10:00
      - Defensive football I'll admit. So what. I want to see us attack and try and win games (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:11:57
        
        It's not pointless when we stay up, reinvest, gradually develop, etc (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:15:51
    - indeed, another problem is that some teams (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:09:59
      - No he was just shit. My opinion obviously. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:12:52
        
        i don't really understand how you can think that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:16:13
        
        VMT. So impressed with what he's done there (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:21:19
- Agree (NCFC) - Elliot Bennett, Dec 5, 20:55:35
  - Agree (NCFC) - Elliot Bennett, Dec 5, 20:56:47
- Post Will get stuck but hits nail on the head in my opinion (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Dec 5, 20:55:09
- not sure we were that solid last week (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 20:49:50
- Your an idiot. Don't bother reading this post. (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris, Dec 5, 20:49:42
- Bollocks (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 20:49:20

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