Last week: "We've turned a corner. So much more solid. Sir Alex so clever"
This week: "Shine definitely coming off the manager for me"... "He's lost his way lately, no ambition..." The usual fickle bullshine, in other words.
Newsflash. In Premier League terms, this is a poor quality squad which if it opened up more, would get hammered more. And poor quality squads have days where they play really badly: Southampton, Newcastle, or today. It happens, and will happen again at least twice more this season. Our players are at Norwich because they're not consistent enough to be at bigger clubs.
I keep going back to this point, but I'm going to mention it again. Chris Hughton did not go so defensive with us because he was an idiot. He did it because he recognised our limitations. Alex Neil has too - but oh look, the "we want to play the Norwich way" fans are starting to turn.
We have to scrape, scramble, grind and battle our way to 17th place. Then we make additions; then we scrape, scramble, grind and battle again; then we build again. That's how most other clubs have done it. What makes us so different in some fans' eyes, God knows.
Watford's way? Watford's way is to change their manager every year and turn their whole squad over practically every year as well. Fair play to them, it's worked; it's not sustainable though. I'd rather be us: but as long as we don't have super-rich owners, it will always be hard, and overall, we're actually doing about as well as could be hoped for.
Just gotta make sure we keep going, don't get depressed, and the matches against the sides around us will decide things.
Posted By: thebigfeller on December 5th 2015 at 20:43:53
Message Thread
- Last week: "We've turned a corner. So much more solid. Sir Alex so clever" (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 20:43:53
- Yeah, the opinion on here changes like the wind. (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 23:14:18
- To do that you need players who will scrap for every point as Stoke did.. (NCFC) - colincanary, Dec 5, 22:05:35
- Stoke have better players than us and a better side and squad than us (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 22:07:33
- there might be some fair points in this (NCFC) - matt in london, Dec 5, 21:32:45
- This is so spot on (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, Dec 5, 21:30:22
- indeed; we're probably the least attractive team in the league for potential signings (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:45:26
- vmt - excellent post (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 20:57:52
- those who turned on hughton were correct (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:05:31
- Hughton era was dire he even managed to fuck up wflgh. Dreary depressing football. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:08:26
- he didn't get us relegated (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:07:29
- lol how (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:15:14
- relegation contenders beat better teams all the time at the end of the season (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:19:28
- Important games like west brom at home? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:24:48
- And against big teams... (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:27:28
- what a load of rubbish (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:31:53
- I give up. It's impossible to argue with someone that takes a stance based on no logic (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:38:07
- Bingo (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:34:49
- what a load of rubbish (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:31:53
- And against big teams... (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:27:28
- oh behave sunderland's miracle run destroyed any chance (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:20:16
- chances of relegation after wba were (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:24:45
- doesn't really work like that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:27:23
- but that ignores wba being safe when losing their final 2 (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:30:08
- well, that's exactly my point (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:33:15
- lol sunderland had 'live' games no matter what we did (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:41:01
- well, that's exactly my point (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:33:15
- but that ignores wba being safe when losing their final 2 (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:30:08
- doesn't really work like that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:27:23
- chances of relegation after wba were (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:24:45
- Important games like west brom at home? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:24:48
- relegation contenders beat better teams all the time at the end of the season (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:19:28
- I agree with meca: albeit, it's complicated (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:12:10
- Well yes of course. (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:19:51
- It's not a recipe for long term success. It's a recipe for survival (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:25:55
- Lambert seemed to do ok for us with that strategy (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:41:59
- vmt - and also Neil is not so effective (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:29:49
- It's not a recipe for long term success. It's a recipe for survival (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:25:55
- Well yes of course. (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:19:51
- Are you on drugs ???? Or his mum ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:08:56
- Rofl (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:07:51
- He wouldn't have kept us up (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:08:27
- which shit players? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:11:58
- Spending ?19M on Hooper, RVW and Fer (hugely overrated luxury) (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Dec 5, 22:57:48
- yeah cos sunderland hadn't taken 13 points from their next 5 matches yet lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:17:50
- Erm RVW in particular (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:14:15
- nice backtracking (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:17:52
- No backtracking. (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:23:14
- I don't think we were going down under Hughton (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:24:29
- I can't prove you wrong, no one can (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:33:26
- not really trolling anyone (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:37:17
- how well he did here? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:44:29
- I haven't seen anyone say hughton is a bad manager (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:42:59
- bit of revisionism there (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:49:24
- it wasn't ultimately effective at all (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:59:15
- bit of revisionism there (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:49:24
- not really trolling anyone (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:37:17
- yes because of sunderland (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:26:57
- I can't prove you wrong, no one can (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:33:26
- I don't think we were going down under Hughton (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:24:29
- No backtracking. (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:23:14
- nice backtracking (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:17:52
- which shit players? (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:11:58
- He wouldn't have kept us up (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:08:27
- lol how (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:15:14
- I was noticing that in the first half hour last week. It worried me a lot (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:03:43
- Are we developing? I see regression (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 21:17:11
- Yeah I have difficulty watching defe (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:10:00
- Defensive football I'll admit. So what. I want to see us attack and try and win games (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:11:57
- It's not pointless when we stay up, reinvest, gradually develop, etc (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:15:51
- Defensive football I'll admit. So what. I want to see us attack and try and win games (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:11:57
- indeed, another problem is that some teams (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:09:59
- No he was just shit. My opinion obviously. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:12:52
- i don't really understand how you can think that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:16:13
- VMT. So impressed with what he's done there (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Dec 5, 21:21:19
- i don't really understand how you can think that (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, Dec 5, 21:16:13
- No he was just shit. My opinion obviously. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 5, 21:12:52
- those who turned on hughton were correct (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 21:05:31
- Agree (NCFC) - Elliot Bennett, Dec 5, 20:55:35
- Agree (NCFC) - Elliot Bennett, Dec 5, 20:56:47
- Post Will get stuck but hits nail on the head in my opinion (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Dec 5, 20:55:09
- not sure we were that solid last week (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 5, 20:49:50
- Your an idiot. Don't bother reading this post. (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris, Dec 5, 20:49:42
- Bollocks (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 5, 20:49:20
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