I know you have a bit of a one-dimensional view of all this stuff, Jim

But it's far from clear that *not* offering Scotland some form of devolution would have got rid of nationalist / separatist demands.

Indeed, we're getting a bit of an insight into how they felt now, in a way. (Some) people in England - including you, I would guess - getting worked up about England being governed partly by a party that doesn't represent us. Well, that's a big part of what led us here - the sense in Scotland that devloped under Thatcher that when there's a Tory government, they've being governed by a party that has basically no representation there. (And in many people's view there, no interest in or sympathy for them, either - henve trialling the poll tax up there etc.)

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on April 27th 2015 at 15:57:59

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Latest Sottish poll projection: SNP 57 seats, Labour 1, Lib Dems 1 (General Chat) - norway, Apr 27, 15:06:33
- Mmmm, a one party state - good luck with that Scotland. (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 27, 16:07:14
  - there's more balance in Holyrood though (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 27, 16:52:11
  - Just like America, or Ireland, or...? (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Apr 27, 16:15:15
    - or even England now (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Apr 27, 16:20:18
- Astonishing, isn't it (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Apr 27, 15:19:25
  - Who has the power to call another referendum? Presumably has to be approved by the UK (General Chat) - Jim, Apr 27, 15:24:07
    - Up to the Scottish Parliament. (General Chat) - norway, Apr 27, 15:36:54
      - I don't think it is quite as simple as that. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 27, 15:47:03
        
        Sorry, - I wasn't suggesting it *was* that simple (General Chat) - norway, Apr 27, 16:21:52
        
        That must be right. Scotland surely could not just unilaterally hold a (General Chat) - Jim, Apr 27, 15:50:06
        
        how would it be if Scotland did unilaterally hold a referendum and the result was differen (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 27, 15:58:54
        
        That may well be what the SNP do. Call for a referendum again (General Chat) - Jim, Apr 27, 16:11:56
        
        I know you have a bit of a one-dimensional view of all this stuff, Jim (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 27, 15:57:59
        
        I don;t have a problem with offering Scotland and Wales devolved powers on certain issues (General Chat) - Jim, Apr 27, 16:09:22
        
        Sorry when i say "I don't have a problem with" that sounds a bit (General Chat) - Jim, Apr 27, 16:13:38
        
        Good point well made teu fly (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Apr 27, 16:06:09
        
        Tricky FFS (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Apr 27, 16:06:25
- Pretty much all of the likely results of this election leave me slightly depressed (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Apr 27, 15:12:40
  - Me too. Doesnt matter who wins. The country is a fucked up mess. (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Apr 27, 16:46:55
  - Doesn't matter who you vote for. (General Chat) - Dunney, Apr 27, 16:01:54
  - ?10 of mine already says that the Tories will do a majority. (General Chat) - norway, Apr 27, 15:16:04
    - Cameron's pumping for you (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 27, 15:41:35
      - He's won my vote (n/m) (General Chat) - Huge Small, Apr 27, 15:57:52
      - I'd rather not win to be fair. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Apr 27, 15:42:22
    - I really thought there would be a surge in their vote share but its not happening (General Chat) - Jim, Apr 27, 15:23:17
      - Problem is that the Tory campaign is shit (General Chat) - RochdaleCanary, Apr 27, 18:34:44

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