It always was full of middle class people

A real issue is self-selection: people from different background think those jobs aren't for them so they don't bother applying.

A parallel I'd draw is with Oxbridge. Externally they're often perceived as the domain of posh public school types. But the reality is that for almost all Oxbridge colleges (yes there are some exceptions, sadly) the proportion of people from state school applying is statistically identical to the proportion of people from state school getting in.

Put differently, a public school background doesn't give you any advantage over the confidence required to think of applying in the first place. Which is broadly what James Cunt was saying, I think.

Posted By: Old Man on January 19th 2015 at 14:07:37

Message Thread

Brilliant! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 13:41:25
- I like the fact he bigged up the USA.... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jan 19, 15:09:42
- Bryant may be wrong about Blunt. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:29:05
  - i wish someone would recognise and develop my talents (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 19, 14:38:23
  - *Their (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:34:53
  - He has a basic point but misses the target due to his obsessive need to (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 19, 14:34:05
    - That's a good point, yes. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:38:50
      - Garrrt doing ballet ... (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:42:39
        
        I knew someone would notice! (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:44:48
      - my 11 year old.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:42:01
        
        If thats the case then maybe Bryant has no point at all. The worst bit of his comments (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 19, 14:47:10
        
        Proth once accused me of having an "ilk". (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:50:17
        
        Have you also got a leymoorbartat? If so, James Blunt would probably sing about it (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 19, 14:51:16
        
        He can be 'posh' and still wish for equality. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:49:47
        
        I don't disagree but he is deliberately making those comments to (General Chat) - Jim, Jan 19, 14:56:41
        
        Does she go to my old school? (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:43:03
        
        i have no idea.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:44:33
        
        No you don't, do you? (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:45:47
        
        GO GET THE CAT! (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:47:19
        
        Oh well, I tried to be reasonable. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:51:17
      - *rushes to register "Garry's Cat"* (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 19, 14:39:43
  - he personaly used (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:31:57
    - Of course having a privileged background gave him an advantage (General Chat) - King, Jan 19, 14:40:14
    - He ignored the general point, treated it as a personal issue and called him a "wazzock". (General Chat) - APB, Jan 19, 14:37:28
      - Ha ha, this thread is brilliant (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:44:22
        
        Twat. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jan 19, 16:14:38
      - come off it... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:38:40
    - Der. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:33:58
      - yes (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:35:13
        
        How? By trying to find reason in Bryant's original interview? (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:41:40
        
        .... (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:44:17
        
        crikey... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:44:11
- Now THAT'S how to fight your corner (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:10:44
  - he's spot on about us needing to be more Yank (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 19, 14:14:39
    - No! (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:18:17
    - god forbid! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:17:48
      - Dyson built his factory in eastern europe because he cant get skilled (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:21:39
        
        wrong! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:25:40
        
        .... (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:28:50
        
        lol (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:29:52
        
        Oh well, suit yourself. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:31:35
        
        thanks love x (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:32:16
        
        I blame Shirley Williams (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:25:10
        
        Her mum's fault for swanning around making fillums instead of (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:26:37
      - Bastard Poles - they stay over there and STILL take our jobs!! (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:19:04
  - apparently... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:12:12
    - TEXTBOOK TROLLING (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Jan 19, 14:29:23
      - thanks darling x (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:39:27
    - Seethey McSeetheson (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Jan 19, 14:16:15
      - The irony of you calling anyone that!! (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:17:54
    - and... (General Chat) - norway, Jan 19, 14:14:25
      - ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:15:20
    - Is he posh? (whatever that means) (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:13:19
      - according to many... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:14:55
        
        he's v posh and completely up his own arse (General Chat) - CWC, Jan 19, 14:18:04
        
        Gosh, I had no idea, all I knew about him was that he sings too high (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:20:36
        
        accident... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:21:15
        
        Blimey (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:24:31
        
        It's mainly a good excuse to do some good old Chelts bashing though, init? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:49:04
        
        That just means his parents had money and connections. (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:17:31
        
        thats the whole point ceebeebees (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:19:04
- Not a fan of his music. But he's quite amusing on twatter (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 19, 13:49:37
  - Excellent comebacks! I doff my cap in his direction. (n/m) (General Chat) - Wilts, Jan 19, 14:26:33
- Typical MP. Out of touch. Out of ideas. Out of facts. (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Jan 19, 13:46:39
  - Nope, the MP is right (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Jan 19, 14:03:49
    - I wouldnt know. But he's wrong about James Blunt. (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Jan 19, 14:07:41
    - It always was full of middle class people (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 19, 14:07:37
  - Vmt (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 13:47:41
    - Have you read the original interview with Chris Bryant? (General Chat) - norway, Jan 19, 13:50:56
      - yes, yes i have.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:06:00
        
        VMT I follow Blunt. I like is banter. Much more than say Brand etc (n/m) (General Chat) - Pit, Jan 19, 14:09:02
        
        No, it isn't. (General Chat) - norway, Jan 19, 14:07:13
        
        Oh dear, spot the sense of humour failure (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:17:16
        
        oh come on... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:20:34
        
        Neil. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:24:20
        
        boyo (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:26:39
        
        And fucking up The Labour Party. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jan 19, 14:32:17
        
        and screwing vast amounts of money in EEC expenses (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:34:54
        
        Glyness? (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jan 19, 14:27:25
        
        glyness (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:29:01
        
        Like the Glyness, he's not bitter (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 19, 14:28:33
        
        ffs! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:08:40
        
        Nope (General Chat) - norway, Jan 19, 14:13:54
        
        yeah (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:15:55
      - Sound bite politics init (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:04:12
      - It's not just the intern culture (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 19, 14:03:22
        
        Cheers OM (General Chat) - norway, Jan 19, 14:05:29
      - There's one thing we can all agree with, surely: (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:02:59
        
        I don't think that at all, having just read that piece and his most amusing twitter stuff (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:15:58
        
        He has more money than you so he must be a cunt (General Chat) - Ben, Jan 19, 14:09:57
        
        BEN. Any chance of getting upperjarroldmiddle's alt accounts onto the scum filter (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 19, 14:35:29
        
        *match. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jan 19, 14:38:29
        
        "mstch the ujm "?????? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:37:20
        
        *ism* (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 19, 14:40:20
        
        *jism* (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 19, 14:41:28
        
        With toast? Real Man will be along shortly to adjudicate your luncheon choice (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jan 19, 14:42:17
        
        well we already tax everyone for their houses (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 19, 14:30:02
        
        On a day when we are told that the gulf between rich and poor is wider than ever (General Chat) - APB, Jan 19, 14:21:10
        
        Crikey, now James Blunt is to blame for the banking crisis??? (General Chat) - Old Git, Jan 19, 14:26:24
        
        WW2. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jan 19, 14:29:10
        
        Politicians to blame. Anarchy in the UK now....... (General Chat) - Pit, Jan 19, 14:23:17
        
        crikey.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:23:15
        
        I think you mean 60 years of Labour and Conservative (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:25:29
        
        I think you realise I'm not talking about him as an individual. (General Chat) - APB, Jan 19, 14:25:11
        
        yes.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:28:06
        
        No, I don't like the assumption that if you don't agree with someone who's wealthy (General Chat) - APB, Jan 19, 14:30:38
        
        in that case its only fair to recognize... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:34:22
        
        VMT (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:33:35
        
        ok (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:11:18
        
        i really dont like.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:07:57
        
        Sounds to me like an Americana apologist but I'll take your word for it. Fortunately (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:10:32
        
        he deals... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jan 19, 14:14:20
        
        I'd like to see him shoot Russel Brand (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jan 19, 14:15:41
        
        Get on twitter CB. Use it as a news feed. Good for sports as well. etc (General Chat) - Pit, Jan 19, 14:18:52
    - I have the same problem ;) (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Jan 19, 13:49:02
- No (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jan 19, 13:45:29

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