clearly aren't using that as a criteria

"greatest players in the history of the World Cup". Messi is a great player who has played in the World Cup - the fact that he hasn't been a great player IN the World Cup clearly wasn't a factor to some judges (he shouldn't have been in the Guardian's 150 player shortlist to be honest, which would have solved the problem).

Posted By: mr carra on May 28th 2014 at 14:14:54

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Now they're just trolling (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:41:26
- I have stopped looking at it because its a wind up. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 13:49:01
  - here the key phrase from their 'how we compiled the list' notes (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 14:00:27
    - I guess. But Messi has done nothing in a world cup. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 14:04:24
      - some jusges clear; (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 14:05:09
        
        clearly aren't using that as a criteria (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 14:14:54
        
        agree. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 14:25:43
- VaVa (Other Football) - Surrey Yella, May 28, 12:35:10
  - number 57 (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:53:22
    - Golden boot winner 62 I think (Other Football) - Surrey Yella, May 28, 14:33:10
    - I thought he meant Henry (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 13:58:54
      - I was trying to work that out. Lol. (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 14:01:50
  - Not sure about that. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:41:43
- Will any Englishmen make the top 20? (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:24:12
  - Banks. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 13:45:42
  - Shilts played in the most games for us. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 13:44:30
  - Danny Mills. (n/m) (Other Football) - bird table, May 28, 12:48:45
  - Charlton, Moore. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:25:39
- No Gerry Armstrong? (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, May 28, 12:19:59
  - Was just about to post about Fontaine (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:23:48
  - Ah yes, Fontaine (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:22:20
    - I only half-jest (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, May 28, 12:27:42
      - One of the most amazing results in World cup history. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:28:54
    - Fuck I love The World Cup. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:24:40
      - It will be hot, atmospheric and there will be no vuvuzelas (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:26:26
        
        hot for many games (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:31:26
        
        Ha - yes, keep forgetting. More like a continent than a country. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 13:33:33
        
        a rainy and drizzly copacabana... (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:35:26
        
        Yay. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:31:21
- What odds on the cheating, druggy, midget, Argie being number 1? (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:03:27
  - The cheating fat cunt is bound to be no.1 (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 13:51:23
  - Hard to argue with him being no.1 really (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 12:04:27
    - Argentina cheated their way to two world cups. 1978 was just unreal cheating. (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 13:53:36
      - FIFA chose the kick off time not Argentina (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:59:53
        
        Argentina told FIFA to change the kick off. Cheats. (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 14:02:12
        
        well yes but that was before the tournament (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 14:09:33
        
        ..and I guess for the team to know where they stood ! (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 14:24:26
        
        *Branco not Dunga (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 14:01:07
    - Pele will be number one (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:05:07
      - Pele, Maradona, Matthaeus, Zidane, Ronaldo. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:08:01
        
        Matthaeus? (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 12:46:40
        
        Becknbauer, Muller (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 13:48:28
        
        Played more games than anyone else. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:58:33
        
        he did (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 13:03:12
        
        Haha. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 13:12:03
        
        I think that Germany side gets unfairly maligned (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 13:16:30
        
        spot on, they were deserved winners (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:28:52
        
        oh, they certainly had great players (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 13:26:41
        
        it wasn't a dive (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:42:45
        
        *unnecessary (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:43:19
        
        A few more you could throw in as possibles... (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:11:08
        
        I reckon Eusebio will be in the top 5 (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 12:43:43
        
        Cruijff - one tournament. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:16:09
        
        surely it isn't just based on performances in World Cups though? (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 12:41:37
        
        Well, that was my point. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:43:20
        
        here goes...I was seething yesterday about Cubillas being so low down (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:28:07
        
        it's probably harder for players to make a mark now... (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 13:35:07
        
        that's true but many great World Cup players will be left out the list (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:45:43
        
        yes, that's a problem witha ll these "top 100" lists (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 13:58:25
        
        Completely agree - good mention of Gerd Muller btw (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 12:45:18
        
        I think Cruyff will be the highest placed player not be on a winning side (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:18:25
        
        Apart from 1986, yeah. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:22:23
        
        Me too - great debate, nothing too serious. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:23:41
- Lineker at 47 is laughable. How does Carlos Alberto get to 34 for 1 World Cup? (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:01:58
  - Lineker did shit himself during a World Cup match though. Extra points for that. (n/m) (Other Football) - bird table, May 28, 12:51:39
  - He should be higher (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:04:36
  - You think Lineker should be higher or lower? (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 12:03:38
    - Higher (at a lower number)! (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:06:10
      - Lineker should be ranked higher but not at the expense of Carlos Alberto (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:06:39
        
        Rivelino at number 32 is only 2 places higher than Alberto. Would you put Alberto ahead (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:09:24
        
        well clearly this debate could go on forever but yes... (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:12:19
        
        World cup winner and player at 3 world cups Jurgen Klinsmann at 96! No sign whatsoever (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:22:59
- Ronaldo might not be in the list (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, May 28, 11:55:16
  - ? (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:58:20
- Yes! Roger Milla at 36! (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 11:49:54
  - Coincidentally, that was his age last birthday. (n/m) (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:11:17
- Hmmm. Well someone is... (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 11:46:11
  - You're missing the point (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:49:48
    - Messi (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 11:56:36
      - at the WORLD CUP. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:59:02
        
        Haha. (n/m) (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:04:15
    - ... (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:54:40
      - Oh, had no idea it was in the World Cup only. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 11:57:09
        
        the question is expressly stated to be open to interpretation (Other Football) - Charles21, May 28, 12:02:28
        
        Sorry, just seen this now. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:59:39
      - Not a very clear question then (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, May 28, 11:56:33
        
        It's open to misinterpretation I suppose. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:00:54
        
        yes, yes it is (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, May 28, 12:03:47
        
        Indeederoonie. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:05:58

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